mezron

whoops... got ahead of myself there. Looks like you can only do a K6 not a K6-2 the bus stops at 300Mhz if thats the case

According to AMD a 366Mhz k6-2 would work assuming your motherboard will support a 5.5 fsb multiplier http://139.95.253.213/SRVS/CGI-BIN/WEBCG...=2,Case=obj(79)

Are you sure he can upgrade to a PR433? just looking around the net on this chipset (sis5597) it looks like it only supports up to 75Mhz bus (83 unofficially). Your friend might be maxed or close to it unfortunately. Couple places I've looked... http://www17.tomshardware.com/mainboard/19970101-1/chipset-13.html http://wmheg.physics.wm.edu/~norman/cpu_info/chipsets.html http://www.hwupgrade.com/chipset/sis5597.html

You should be able to just set it up the way your other account on the machine is. Go to the control panel then Internet Options then the Connections tab. Click the setup button and follow the wizard... you'll need to know some settings if your ADSL is PPOE otherwise its pretty self explanatory.

I totally see and agree with what you say in your example. the only thing I was wondering was whether or not that scenario occurs enough in the "real world" for defraggers to really be necessary on ext2. In this age of 100+ GB drives do many people ever really fill the drives over say 70% (pulled that number out of my butt). :x I was looking around the net to find people that have asked the same question as you did, only to find one person who had written a program that would create and remove several large and small files just to see if he could fragment the drive. Apparently from his test he was able to fragment it heavily and perfomance did suffer from it. He also asked at the end of his article whether his test was real world or not. Whether he had "overdone it". Anyway... everything I saw effectively said, yea fragmentation does occur... just not enough to really amount to anything worthwile. I myself am curious if this is really true. I don't really do that kind of stuff with my computer and have had Linux and FreeBSD systems run for long (over a year) periods with no noticeable slowdown. I'm not knowledgeable enough to know how to check for it other than when the system boots as it mounts the partitions it tells x.x% non-contigious etc... Regardless, if you ever get around to it and discover anything either way please come back here to let us know. I for one would genuinely like to know Jim

Well, it's been a couple weeks now since this thread was active. I was wondering how the test went.. is going... will go... come on! Inquiring minds want to know!! seriously tho... any enlightenment on whether this whole ext2 needs no stinkin defraggin thing is a hoax?

Quote: Yup, I can share files, no problem. And I can print files from one machine to the other, no problem. ok... knowing that helps. connection is not hosed what does ipconfig /all show for ip addresses on both the systems? it's a show stopper if one of the machines does not report 192.168.0.* Quote: Someone not in this forum, who's never personally set up ICS, has suggested that I might be misunderstanding ICS in that I'm expecting the client to be able to initially dial up the Internet connection via the gateway machine. It CAN do this, I've found (you can watch it happening), but the client then times out before it's had a chance to get online and download anything. yes, in the internet options (control panel) run the connection wizard on the client machine and go the "connect through lan" route. On my lan I've found this to be a double edged sword. If the client machine has aim, or weather bug or something else running at boot that tries to connect to the internet to update or whatever then the gateway machine constantly dials up. I turned the client can initiate dialler off after about 3 1/2 minutes Personally I find it less frustrating to initiate the dial up manually then let the other computer surf through mine. Quote: So, have I been misunderstanding how ICS should be used from Day One? Should the gateway machine always be already online first? That would certainly fit with the more general expectation of employing DSL and cable modems these days (always on modems). I don't think you're misunderstanding anything. It's just not the most intuitive thing to do until you've done it a couple times.

just occured to me... you're not using zone alarm or any other firewalling software are you? that could throw a wrench into things 8)

Quote: Okay, the ICS software creates its own DHCP server, but where exactly should it register that server, ie in which tabs? Also, you say "If the address is 169.254x.x then look to communication between the two machines". What do you mean by that, exactly?. You won't really see any tabs where the server is registered so to speak. You could look in the services section of computer management to see that "internet connection sharing" is enabled (not disabled I hope). The easiest way for me to see the ip of the network cards is open the command prompt and type in "ipconfig /all" minus quotes. Generally when windows can't find a dhcp server to get its ip, it reverts to 169.254.something.i forget so if it's using that address on the client machine then either communication between the computers is bad, or the dhcp server function of ics is hosed. Can you do anything else between the two computers? share files, etc.? (Still trying to establish that we have a good network connetcion between the two computers with this question) Quote: My account, which I configure manually on my machine (the one I now use as the gateway machine or server), works fine and is optimumly configured as a 56K dial-up. The only thing to watch for is did the isp use any software, or does it just use whats built in to windows already. the windows ics doesn't work with 3rd party dialers (my experience anyway).

Couple questions... 1. Which ISP? 2. How are the computers connected? Crossover cable or hub? Are you using any othe DHCP server devices on the lan? Ok.. more than a couple questions but anyways :x On both machines set the TCP/IP to obtain address automatically. On the gateway machine configure your internet dial up as you normally would (you've probably already done this). Assuming your ISP will allow you to just use the built in dial up networking that Windows provides, you should be able to right click your dialler and chose properties. In there go to sharing, and enable shared access. If you're using AOL, Earthlink (with thier software) Juno, or anyone else that installs thier own dialler... you're hosed, give it up at this point. If you ever get it to work it'll be like pulling teeth to keep it working. If all is well to this point reboot the client machine. The ICS software in Windows creates its own DHCP server. The gateway address should be 192.168.0.1, the client after rebooting should be 192.168.0.2 (automatically assigned by gateway). If the address is 169.254.x.x then look to communication between the two machines. If you are just using a cable to connect the two, verify that you are using a crossover cable. If you are using two cables and a hub, make sure neither cable is a crossed over cable. Check also that you don't have one of the computers plugged into the uplink port on the hub. Hope this helps! Jim

First off I want to say I agree with you. I'd like to say one thing about this though Quote: How can you hold the makers of a gun responsible for these killings? Is this any different to say the relative of a car accident victim taking first Ford to court for making the car and then the dealer to court for selling it? When you use a car as it's designed and intended to be used, you move from one place to another. You might either through accident or intent hurt or even kill another. When you use a gun as it's designed and intended to be used, you take a life. Does this mean I support taking the gun manufacturer and dealer to court? Absolutely not. I do question the apparently God given right to own guns we (in America) seem to think we need in this day and age though. Jim

http://sdb.suse.de/en/sdb/html/ext2frag.html http://www.science.unitn.it/~fiorella/guidelinux/tlk/node101.html but if you really want a defragger they are out there as this one points out http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/faqs/linux_faq_AEN1511 essentially it comes down to this... Microsoft opted for speed in the filesystem, shove the file in the first available block etc... On Linux the filesystem is designed to find enough contigious blocks to accomodate the file whenever possible. fragmentation does occur, but it's pretty minimal... not enough to sweat over. By the way, thanks for all your posts here. I've been lurking for a couple years now and have learned quite a bit about tweaking Windows from your posts

there aren't any defraggers on linux as it's unnecessary. the filesystem doesn't fragment like it does in Windows.

try this. http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/sidewinder/downloads/default.asp#Soft_GC