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Yes i got the version 4 software, but it still didn't give me the actual gaming control software. I installed it but all it gave me was the sidewinder central thing i mention in my orignal post. Maby the force feeback will only work with cirtain games or somthing. I'v tried it with about 3 so far and it hasn't worked but maby it might with some. Thanks.

Yea but i don't have a gameport joystick. It's a wheel. In that link it says "When you plug a Microsoft SideWinder Standard joystick into the gameport on your Microsoft Windows XP-based computer, the Game Controllers tool in Control Panel does not detect the joystick correctly when you click Microsoft SideWinder (Auto Detect)" But with my wheel it does auto detect it and it comes up as "Microsoft Sidewinder Force Feedback Steering Wheel" or somthing simmilar. But i just don't get any force feedback and i can't get to the profile editor or anything as i previosly explained. So yea i dunno whats goin on. Thanks for the help tho.

Yea but i don't have a gameport joystick. It's a wheel. In that link it says "When you plug a Microsoft SideWinder Standard joystick into the gameport on your Microsoft Windows XP-based computer, the Game Controllers tool in Control Panel does not detect the joystick correctly when you click Microsoft SideWinder (Auto Detect)" But with my wheel it does auto detect it and it comes up as "Microsoft Sidewinder Force Feedback Steering Wheel" or somthing simmilar. But i just don't get any force feedback and i can't get to the profile editor or anything as i previosly explained. So yea i dunno whats goin on. Thanks for the help tho.

Hey, I know it's a grave dig, but i really need to know how NascarFool would have gotten the wheel to work with force feedback. I am having the same problem he had, and can't seem to get around it. Thanks.

Hey guys, I bought a Sidewinder force feedback wheel of ebay yesterday and picked it up today. When i got it home i realised it was the gameport version and my computer doesent have a gameport port. No dramas i am gettin a sound card from my friend so that will be fine. I have been trying the wheel on my sisters computer cause it has a gameport. When i plugged the wheel in i went into control panel/gaming controls and clicked add then selected the sidewinder/auto detect. Well it added fine and it said there was a Microsoft Force Feedback Steering Wheel installed. So i went to calibrate it but all there was was a wheel allignment test and then accelerator / brake test. I couldnt get to any force feedback test or anything. So i decided to try installing the drivers i got with the wheel off the cd. I got this......... "Sidewinder Game Device Software 3.x installs drivers that are incompatible with this version of Windows. For more information, contact Microsoft." (Im on XP Pro by the way) So i searched for newer drivers and found a 3.20 sidwinder driver on the microsoft website except it had a simmilar problem and wouldn't install properly. So i searched for a newer version and came across this site. Searched the forums and found that people had had the same problem as me. I tried the solutions people posted and i got to the "sidewinder central" after installing the version 4.0 drivers i found a link to from this site. I have a screenshot of the sidewinder central program below.... http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-4/989112/untitled.JPG Thats the main menu of the program, so i hovered over the control panel game controls button and got whats in this next pic.... http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-4/989112/untitled2.JPG But when i click the button i just get back to the control panel gaming controller menu and when i click calibrate i get the same problem as mentioned above. I have been testing the game with monster truck madness 2 witch is definatly supposed to provided force feedback to the sidewinder wheel when you play with it, but i don't get any force feedback at all. I'v made sure all the controller settings for the wheel are fine in the game, still wont work. All i can do is turn/accellerate without any force feedback, vibration ect. And i cant test weather the force feedback is working because i can only get the basic calibration menu. Does anyone have any advice? I realyl don't want to have wasted all my money. Thanks in advance guys and also for reading all that haha. Tom