noot

Thanks for the info dosfreak. Both the ATI and the nVidia that you speak of date back to 2002 -- and time is the heart of the problem. Back then NT4 was still common, and new hardware still worked with it. Now things have changed, chips and drivers are different. Manufacturers still put out NT4 drivers, but they don't seem to work with the new video boards. (They don't crash, I just get the plain VGA driver after re-boot, because "your new driver is missing or incomplete" or words to that effect.) I found where it says you need an intel chipset: http://www.xpertvision.com.tw/en/support/faq.html#4 (My card is from xpertvision.) "No matter what OS you are using, if you use M/B with VIA, ALi, or SiS instead of Intel chip, you have to install AGP.VXD." You can't install a vxd on NT4, so you need an intel chipset. If anyone knows a new GeForce AGP card that really works with NT4, we'd love to hear about it. But my client has a few old unused Win98 licenses, so these might do for a stop-gap -- leave NT4, without having to buy XP. Next job after that, put all the genuine Win98 DLLs in WINE, and see if that really works. (Surely someone knows already, but I haven't found the page where they told us about it.) noot

Originally posted by dosfreak: Quote: The drivers with the card should work. I've used NT4 with a Geforce 4 and a Radeon 9700 with the drivers that came on the CD for them. Hi dosfreak Mid 2005 i came to the conclusion that 1) Radeon drivers for NT4 go no higher than the 8500, (See https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=1349) but the lowest i could buy new was 9250. i tried one but it didn't work. 2) nVidia drivers for NT4 seem to cover the current cards, but i couldn't get them to work with an Asus K8V-X (VIA chipset). Am sure i read that these drivers only work with Intel chipsets, but can't find where now. If i'm wrong, please tell us the secrets of how you get an MX4000 to work. What chipset/mobo were you on? [btw, i prefer the MX4000 for 2D work, as it runs a lot cooler than the Radeon9250, and it still plays videos/DVDs OK. In Queensland heat can be a problem.] I help a small company with a dozen desktops running NT4. They don't want to upgrade yet (hoping WINE will get good enough before they have to) but with no NT4 drivers for new video cards, and their old boxes dangling their feet in the grave, looks like WinXP licenses may soon be on the shopping list... Hope you can help. noot