Robor

Kyosho46vr: You should take your own advice and shut your mouth unless you know what you're talking about. I'm speaking from personal experience because I actually own a Radeon. Do you? Plus, I don't remember seeing a single review of the Radeon running Win2K benchmarks. If you have one throw the link here and I'll read it. I've spent many hours troubleshooting it under Win2K and the end result is it doesn't work. I'm not going to go into my process here because it would take too long. Do a search and you'll see posts by myself and other Radeon users. In fact, go to http://rage3d.com and look in the forum there. There are a couple people who say they've got a Radeon working under Win2k but they are far outnumbered by those suffering from BSOD in D3D games and benchmarks. I'll say it again, stay away from the Radeon. Rob [This message has been edited by Robor (edited 24 August 2000).]

Stay away from the Radeon. Rob

The Platinum has Live Drive and gold connectors. I'm not sure if there's more than that but those are 2 differences that I know of. Rob

I've currently got IDE1 & IDE2 disabled in the BIOS. Also have Serial 1 & 2 disabled as well as the Parallel Port. Have the Highpoint controller enabled because I've got an IBM 45GB ATA100 on it for storage. I need the SCSI card because I've got a 9GB IBM UW drive on it (2 partitions - 1 for WinMe the other for Win2K). Also have a Wide SCSI Plextor 40X reader on it. I've never had any performance issues with the CD or hard drives. In fact, my buddy and I compared install times on a few games and my SCSI parts blew his away (100% to 33%). I'm at a friends house right now. I will work on my box when I get home. Thanks! Rob

devils advocate: I took your advice and swapped the SB Live! and SCSI controller. Here's a printout of my IRQ's from System Information. Does this look okay? I see my USB & Live are sharing 12 but I'm using a USB mouse and the Live seems to be working okay. Haven't installed any games yet so I can't confirm success or failure yet. Oh, should I install SP1 then my Radeon drivers again or no. I haven't installed SP1 or any updates yet. Also running with Win2000 SB Live drivers (didn't update or install Liveware). Fingers crossed but not holding my breath! Thanks very much again for the help all! Rob System Information report written at: 08/20/2000 06:21:45 AM [iRQs] IRQ Number Device 10 RADEON DDR 12 Intel 82371AB/EB PCI to USB Universal Host Controller 12 Creative SB Live! Basic (WDM) 15 Adaptec AHA-2940U/AHA-2940UW PCI SCSI Controller 15 Highpoint Technology Inc. Hpt366 Ultra DMA 66 Controller 15 Highpoint Technology Inc. Hpt366 Ultra DMA 66 Controller 11 SMC EtherPower II 10/100 Ethernet Adapter 1 PC/AT Enhanced PS/2 Keyboard (101/102-Key) 6 Standard floppy disk controller 8 System CMOS/real time clock 13 Numeric data processor

I just finished reinstalling Win2K for the 2nd time this week. Seems after flashing my BE6-2 BIOS to the "SH" revision it keeps putting my Highpoint ATA66 controllers on IRQ11 with my SB Live Platinum (listed as Creative SB Live Basic (WDM). The Highpoint was using 14 or 15 before but really likes 11 now and I can't change it in device manager. I'm beyond frustrated at this point. I'm about to blow this MF'er away and load Win98SE on it... Oh, I'm using a BX chipset so this problem isn't chipset related. Rob

devils advocate: Thanks for the posting. I tried that and a lot of other stuff and still can't get Win2K to play Unreal or UT. So far I've flashed the MB BIOS, uninstalled Liveware, uninstalled the Radeon & multimedia stuff, reinstalled the Radeon, tried several different patches of Unreal/UT, tried the D3D patch for Unreal, and duplicated the D3D configuration of da's unreal.ini (tried that in both UT & Unreal). Still the same exact problem... BSOD on the opening screen in ati2dvag.dll. BTW, I can run the DirectX tests and they all complete fine. Also, I was told to try applying DirectX after applying my Radeon drivers again. How? I tried to install DirectX7a and it wouldn't allow it. Is it possible to reapply DirectX in Win2K. Thanks for any advice! Rob

Maybe I should blow away that partition and reformat without installing LiveWare for Win2K? I dunno, at this point I'm at a loss. Some Radeon users are reporting problems under Win2K and others aren't. devils advocate: Did you apply SP1 to Win2K? Are you using the drivers from the CDROM (I'm not aware of any others for Win2K). Have you tried Unreal and/or Unreal Tournament in Win2K using D3D? If so what color depth are you using and what settings under advanced properties? Sorry to ask so many questions but I want to get to the bottom of this. Thanks! Rob

I suspect the Live Platinum because there's another Radeon user on another Forum with the same kinda issues. Same BSOD crash and same "ati2dvag.dll" causing it (sad that I know that .dll by name now). That's what leads me to believe it's a driver issue that only comes up with SB Live using D3D under Win2K. What's really got me puzzled is I can run UT under WinME with D3D and it's blazing fast. If I try Unreal it's slow as a dog. Switch Unreal to OpenGL and it's doing like 73FPS @ 1024x768x32. I know Unreal does better in D3D than OpenGL so that doesn't make sense. I've got the "Final" UT patch. Is there a D3D patch after that? Rob

System: BE6-2/P3-700/256MB/Radeon 64MB/SBLive Platinum. Fresh install of Win2000Pro Retail, Windows Update to install Critical Updates patch, install SP1. Installed Win2K Radeon drivers from CDROM, installed SBLive! Platinum drivers and latest Liveware for Win2K. All okay so far. Problem is when I run Unreal in D3D mode it crashes or I get a BSOD that hangs the system. Tried using OpenGL and I get shimmering textures all over the place in the flyby. Any ideas? Rob

Oops - Double post! [This message has been edited by Robor (edited 17 August 2000).]

Be careful with a coppermine in a P2-B. I got my Dad a Slot1 600E and it wouldn't POST. After about an hour of troubleshooting I looked on the web. I came across an article where someone was having the same problem (wish I still had the link but if you search you should be able to find it). Anyway, the solution was to use a FC-PGA CPU in a Slocket where you could manually boost the voltage. Luckily I had a 600E FC-PGA in an IWill slocket in one of my machines so I traded him (and got a cB0 in the process). I bumped the voltage to 1.8 (it had a Golden Orb on it so I wasn't concerned about heat) via the jumpers and it POSTed right up. Rob

I just installed my first game (Rogue Spear) under this fairly fresh bootup of Win2K Pro (final). Someone suggested setting the optimization to backround rather than apps so I did that. Installed, patched, ran game. Even when I configured my keys they were sticking. The meter for sound would stick down and go all the way one direction. Okay, knew it was gonna suck then. Anyway, I set my keys and ran the game. First shot I fired nearly emptied my magazine. Well, games suck under Win2000 and that's a fact. It's a well known problem so hopefully MS is working on a resolution. Right now the only option is to dual boot and play games under Win98. In fact, I'm going to do that right now... Rob

Here's my deal... Old PS2 Compaq Keyboard, Older PS2 Logitech Trackman Marble (no wheel) w/Win2K drivers. Games with sticky keys... Unreal Tournament, Rogue Spear, and Tribes. Those are the only games I've played under Win2000 and all of them have sticky keys so I don't know of any games that don't have the problem. Rob

AVP_SAV: Is this a confirmed fix for this sticky key problem? This is the first I've read about a workaround. I haven't even bothered to install any games on my fresh load of Win2000 because of this problem and it's the only thing that forces me to dual boot Win2K & Win98SE. Rob