Prophet

I think whether it's worth it depends on whether Win2K is working with ACPI on your system. If it is, then in order to make the SBLive work, you'll need to disable it (change to the Standard PC HAL) then disable PCI IRQ steering. I have not tried this, and don't intend to. I believe Creative will release Win2K enabled drivers that will work with ACPI in the next couple months, and until then I can reboot to millennium/win98 to play games with 4 speakers. If your system is already using the Standard PC HAL - then by all means go for it! Prophet

does that mean you have it working properly? I can't get the install program to even extract the files anymore. the installshield freezes after it loads (the bar goes to 100% then goes away) for liveware 3 install (the new, updated version). I'm sticking with the native drivers for now. I'm on RC3 currently, will upgrade to RTM soon. Prophet

Actually that's not true. The Sound Blaster Live! supports A3D 1.0 through software, and should work with Q3A fairly well, though probably not quite as well as an Aureal Vortex/Vortex 2 card (not just Diamond's vortex card btw). However this software emulation, aswell as EAX is not supported in the current Win2K drivers. Unless of course you managed to get Liveware 3 working properly on win2K, something i've been unable to do. Once Creative finishes the real SBLive! drivers for 2K with live!ware support, i'm quite sure this feature will wokr. as for EAX support in Q3A, it's not gonna happen, though i'd be very happy if it did. Prophet

I believe the news chameleon mentioned about the 'athlon killer' was not about Coppermine but rather Willamette, a generation beyond coppermine. I believe The Register reported on the news that Intel may release the chip code-named Willamette early, as early as this year. I highly doubt the accuracy of this news, as Intel would not crush their own 'coppermine' chip so soon after it's release. If they did release Willamette anytime in the somewhat near future, it would be incredibly expensive, possibly more than a Xeon chip. I intend to have a 700mhz Athlon chip in my computer soon, replacing my dual P3 500s (some may not see the logic in this upgrade, but it _does_ make sense for me). Personally I intend to keep my primary comp. running on AMD chips for as long as they're comparable to Intel's latest offering. And I've seen benchmarks of the coppermine chips on camino motherboards that actually show a performance lose compared to good ol' BX motherboards! (and original P3s). I don't believe any of the new P3 B chips are based on S370, but rather Socket 380, which isn't compatible with current celeron Slotkets. I cannot confirm any of this but it's what I currently believe to be true. If anyone has more solid info _please_ post it. Prophet