mr_yellow

I *know* this topic has been beaten like a dead horse, I've searched everywhere and i can't find a solution. The problem being, my stand by/hibernation problems are different from everyone else's... I've had my TNT2 before and I never had these issues. i could standby/hibernate no prob. When I got my current geforce 2 gts, I couldn't do any of it anymore.(asus v7700) Where it differs: Most people with similar setups can't RECOVER from a standby/hibernation sequence. My prob is that I can't even START the standby/hibernation sequence. It'll load into the "preparing your system to standby" screen and it'll hang there. I can move my mouse, move the little window, but the blue animation bar doesn't move and my system is unrecoverable except for the reset button. Does anyone have any more info about this? any suggestions? I'm running Win2k regular ACPI system HAL, Asus v7700(GF2), Asus A7V, SBlive, NIC, 2 HDD's, DVD,CDR.... I've experimented and any combination of Fast Writes, SBA, 4x AGP, enabling on the OS side doesn't affect anything. Disabling 4x AGP, FW, from the BIOS doesn't do anything. I've tried to manually set AGP strength(DA and EA) but both don't do anything, aaand... that's about it... Any suggestions? (short of a reinstall). Thanks in Advance

Look under services and find the ZipToA service and set it to manual. You won't get that annoying message in your event log anymore. I never knew what It was for and never noticed the difference after I disabled it from loading. Actually I don't use Iomega's ZipTools since it's mainly bloat and the basic w2k support for the external zipdrive works great(enable legacy parallel port support). But then since you've got an internal IDE zipdrive, my experience doesn't applyl. But the above suggestions do apply to the 2-3 days I did have ZipTools installed. mr_yllow [This message has been edited by mr_yellow (edited 15 August 2000).]

Check www.bp6.com If your BP6 is a 1.1 revision you most likely have the dreaded "VOLTAGE BUG". You can check with Motherboard MOnitor and keep an eye on the +3.3v(I think it's the 3.3v). It should be fluctuating like mad... check out bp6.com and their forum for more info about this nasty defect. good luck mr_yellow

Yes, it has been answered. Please search the next time you have a question.. But to reiterate(for those reading), you must put the brightness bar all the way to the left(darkest) and slide the bar up with the keyboard to make the brightness go up. mr_yellow

Quote: Originally posted by Mark W: mr_yellow, are you saying you could use say a P3700e and an old C366 (@550) together on a BP6? I'd love to hear about somebody doing that. Yes! I *believe* it is possible. When the NEO adapter was first being beta tested, paul@powerleap was able to dual a coppermine and a celeron1. You'll have to go to www.bp6.com for more info as I don't keep up with bp6 happenings anymore. I'm not sure if any new compatibiltiy problems have cropped up or whether people have successfully done this SMP setup.. All i know is that it has been "tested" and "worked". Again. read up on it. I would hate to think someone would even consider my word as final.. mr_yellow

well if you already have a athlon 650, that's a pretty good system right there... If you want to SMP anything, you've got to SMP coppermines since anything else wouldn't be as fast as your athlon. You could wait for dual athlon boards to come out.. You could pick up a duron600+asusa7v and hopefully overclock that to 900MHz.. that'll probably be faster than your athlon 650... but I'm not sure about 3d-rendering since your athlon has so much more cache than the duron... Best bet would be to save your money and blow it on a dual athlon when it's available... mr_yellow

go for the cpu and motherboard upgrade. That will last you the longest and prove to be the most economical. Not only will it improve gaming performance but overall performance aswell. (we don't play games 99% of the time while using the computer do we?????) You're TNT card is still decent and I'm sure things will become Much smoother after the CPU upgrade. You won't get a skyrocketing FPS but upgrading to geforceMX won't get you that either since your CPU will bottleneck it as well. Trust me on this one. A geforce on a low MHz computer won't do jack for you. The difference from a tnt2Ultra on a 550celeron and a geforce2gts on a 550 celeron lets me play ~one resolution higher(without changing any details), to be specific, that just means I get to play decent at 800x600 to playing smooth at 1024x768. THis is with the Halflife Engine(CS of course). I'd expect the same increase if i kept the tnt2ultra and upgraded to a duron or thunderbird(except then EVERYTHING is faster!) Hope this helps. P.S. get the a7v with multiplier adjust and OC that duron to 900! mr_yellow

Celermines are completely out of the question if you're trying to SMP two of them. Coppermines are Not SMPable on a BP6 *unless* you do a modification on the BP6 AND the Powerleap NEO adaptors(details availbale at www.bp6.com). The best way to SMP coppermines is by using another board(tyan was one suggestion). BP6 is a great board but pretty much dead now. The best use of a bp6 is SMP 2 celeron1's or SMPing one coppermine(NOT celermine) and one celeron1. I believe this combination is possible with the NEO adapter without any modifications to boards. To Summerize, SMP Celermines is a no go. Don't use a BP6, either go cheap and old(dual celeron 550 on a BP6) or go new and expensive (dual coppermine ??? on an MSI or Tyan dual board) Hope this helps

I will be the first one here with negative comments.. but i gotta say it.. WHAT IN THE WORLD WERE YOU THINKING? for someone how doesn't know the diff between slot 1 and slot a to be building a computer from scratch, i can only say you deserve what you got. READ UP on something you "sorta know" before you waste some big bucks(at least it's big bucks to me). Rule of thumb: If it going to cost more than your weekly paycheck, get smarter at it before you do it. I'm really sorry, but it's true. You're a jackass. /END RANT /BEGIN FLAMES AGAINST ME mr_yellow EDIT:was considering removing the message but what the hell. it'll stay.. [This message has been edited by mr_yellow (edited 21 July 2000).]

most likely related to Nvidia Drivers.. I have a TNT2 Ultra and get the same bug. I have no idea what causes it and the only way to fix it is by rebooting. and enabling mouse shadow fixes non-text cursors. disabling mouse shadow makes all cursors corrupt.

Drivers. simple. complain to ATI for better more functional drivers.

SAME. I posted before that my eax was working.. turns out eax is turned off at 3/4 acceleration.. when I bumped it up to max, i got the old crackling, delayed, and missing sounds in Halflife. Abit BP6 dual 366@550 setup.

Quote: Originally posted by ODiN: You guys having problems with video skipping, what motherboard and video are you using? I'm having the same problem, but think that it has to do more with the video drivers. This problem is mostly when playing DivX clips as well, and occassionally with MPEG. I think the more CPU-intensive the codec, the worse it is. Actually I'm pretty sure it's not a video card driver related problem.. I've have a TNT2Ultra and have changed detonators since 3.xx. It's most likely tied to Sound drivers because if you bump down the sound acceleration in the sound and multimedia control panel, to basic(also disables EAX), the skipping goes away. anything higher and the skipping comes back. I too am on a BP6. I can't figure out why Ronin still has a flawless machine. i guess it's our mobo as well.. mr_yellow

Installed the final package after ripping out all the old drivers, anyone else with an ACPI multiprocessor system still get skipping when playing videos? my EAX prob is cure tho..(thank god)...

I had low expectations for these drivers.. my turn to rant. EAX is still broken(only tried HL) Videos still skip at full acceleration those are the only two problems i have. they still persist after i installed the new drivers.. Will attempt to remove all slive stuff and install drivers from scratch. this sucks balls.. oh yeah, i'm on a bp6 too. so maybe it's still a bug with ACPI multiprocessor systems. Boo..

after reading your reply for like the 10th time i FINALLY realize you were basically saying "DON'T OVERCLOCK" But no where in your message did you actually SAY that, so All i saw when reading your reply was a bunch of numbers and you talking about cache multipliers etc... I'm sorry for my reaction.. I simply thought your reply was for another thread... but seriously though, you should be a little more concise next time to avoid confusion. And I doubt it's an overclocking issue since it did occur with the install of the sblive! and i (assume) he's been running his computer like that for a while now...

What kind of messed up reply is that compuman? hmm.. the server must be whacked.. anyways, I had a similar problem, caused by a scandisk check that had to truncate winmgmt.exe.. I ended up doing a repair install... That's a bit drastic but it worked for me.. you can always try to get a copy of the winmgmt.exe and associated files from someone else and overwrite yours..

It probably takes a day to package the drivers in proper form.. and who the hell wants to work over the weekend? do you?? All i can say is thank god they've finally finished, but i seriously don't expect them to fix the problems i've had, like skipping video, and screwed up choppy eax support... ah well.. keeping my expectations low.. mr_yellow

Are you sure there is an error? I know lots of installshield programs stall at 99% in win2k. perhaps you should wait a bit longer. eg: i was installing some partition magic and it stalled at 99% unpacking the files, then hit 100% 5 minutes later and then vanished. and I decided to leave it and not terminate the weird process it had created in task manager. 10 minutes later, the partition magic screen popped up with the license agreement prompt. I had lost interest in the time waiting so i just cancelled it.. mr_yellow edit: in anycase, vampire installed fine for me. I believe i had to wait for it to hit 100% too. [This message has been edited by mr_yellow (edited 27 June 2000).]

Quote: Originally posted by Dragon-Lord: LightWave 3D 6 and Project:Messiah My Geforce DDR made a HUGE difference in these high end apps as compared with my TNT2Ultra. I can Q3A and LW3D on the same system...very nice. :} So what is it that the geforce1 has that makes those apps "better"(remember, i'm not talking speed here)? does Messiah use the onboard T&L engine? I thought it had it's own software engine to do the transform and lighting? Also, I don't quite see how lightwave 6 would have any extra features on a geforce1 other than speed... Sorry, but I just gotta ask these questions. mr_yellow

Here's a chart I hope people will agree with. I've grouped the video cards by generation. Best video card depending on processor speed. <600Mhz: voodoo3 >600Mhz: TNT2 Why: voodoo3 has the power to provide high framerates at low resolutions with lower power processors. Until you get up in the higher Mhz processors does the 32bit/highrez gaming become playable with the TNT2, in which case, the TNT2 becomes the better chip. Proof: HL on my friends 300Mhz voodoo3 system plays just as smoothly as my 550Mhz system with a tnt2ultra. <600Mhz: Geforce/geforce2 >600Mhz: Voodoo5 Why: Geforce now has the power to muscle it's way into better FPS at low and somewhat high rez's on low end systems. Voodoo5 coughs at low end. Not until you get to the superMhz systems does voodoo5 start to make it's money with it's FSAA. Proof: well, I don't actually have any.. but I have seen FSAA in action.. and my opinion is that it's subliminal. You notice (the FSAA) at first but then get used to it and you don't really care for it after it's been on for a while. But after you start playing with it OFF, you realize the ugliness and you don't get used to the ugliness and you keep seeing the edges, over and over again. Now why is everyone replacing geforces with voodoo5's? Simple. Image quality and their fat wallets. these people have processors that provide them with super fast gaming. Ofcourse, they then realize the jaggedness and want to have FSAA but the FSAA implementation is worse than that of a Voodoo5. Hence, they switch over. Also I'm guessing most of these people are geforce 1 owners. and we all know that the geforce 1 is mearly a faster TNT card, nothing more(You know it! What are you doing with the geforce1 on a regular basis that I can't do with the TNT2(albeit slower)?). It brings with it fast framerates but still the ugly jaggedness(once you notice it ofcourse). Anyways, Time for all of you to poke holes in my logic. I'd like to know where I'm wrong so I can correct myself. Oh yeah, back to w2k support. I always thought the w2k support of 3dfx, although not always as vocal as nVidia, was better. Again, my friend had full control panel support and all the neat functionality with his voodoo3 in w2k waaaay before I even had a stable version of detonators for w2k. mr_yellow EDIT: I forgot to mention, I tried to generalize as much as possible. I don't want to fight over specific sh*t like "640 FSAA vs 1024 Non-FSAA", but while I'm talking about that, I'd play with fsaa with lower rez. FSAA also eliminates other stuff like edge crawling, pixel popping, which can still be seen at 1024 and higher. [This message has been edited by mr_yellow (edited 24 June 2000).]

Put your modem into another slot.. Like it or not, not all PCI slots are equal.. Some pci slots share irqs and resources with other things on your motherboard, and that may bring incompatibilities. For instance, I have a 100Mbit Linksys Network card which I put into a slot that used to hold a 10Mbit generic networkcard. That slot was fine with the old network card but with the linksys, win2k always never found the driver when I pointed it to the disk. I put the linksys card into the slot above it and tried it again and boom, it found the networkcard drivers on the disk! I guess it has something to do with how the motherboard communicates with the card to gather the info needed to make driver placement.. So Just try sticking the modem into another slot. hope that helps.. mr_yellow

that powerleap adapter is the way to go... I'm thinking about getting two for my bp6. yum... mr_yellow

I suggest you clean install and quickly install the latest 5.xx(5.25) driver. that always worked for me.. whenever I had driver problems related to the video, for some strange reason the clean install worked the best.. No amount of driver reinstalling/safemode installs, file swapping, worked when I had that string of buggy video drivers.. not until I clean installed did the latest versions of the detonators start working.. My criteria of working drivers is a bit limited though... HL/CS Video's Misc Opengl games/demos nfs5. I haven't even tried q3 or ut to test my stability.. I figure what I don't use won't kill me.. the w2k tnt saga continues..

Quote: Originally posted by spacey: mr yellow that happened to me too with the 5.16 drivers... like for some reason my system could no longer install drivers. so i had to format and install it from scratch. i hope you find an alternative. FRICK!!!!! You think doing a windows upgrade installation will do the trick instead of a pure reinstall? Oh, and does this affect driver installation for all other drivers aswell? i've been afraid to touch other devices... Thanks for your insight.. mr_yellow