Hit

Anyone else gets this? AIM 4.7 I still think doesn't work in XP RC1, so I use AIM 4.3, and I've had this leak forever. Basically, after every IM, about 300K more RAM is used. It never goes down, and I'll find that process using 200 megs in no time.

I think his point is that even if you wanted to use the dog, he doesn't make anything easier and takes up space, thus making searching even MORE of a pain. In light of that, I'd say either fix it up so there's room for him or just ..em...put him to sleep and be done with it =]

AIM 4.7 will NOT work in 2474+. Ironically enough, this is probably because AOL tried to make AIM more XP aware, and it broke under 2474. In beta 2, AIM 4.7 had the new XP look. Anyway, you have to use 4.3. In order to get it to install, you have to save the executable to disk, and run it from there. It took me a few tries, but eventually it installs. If it hangs, stop it IMMEDIATELY. Also, check the dir you chose to install to. You may find a 500+MB file sitting there.

I, for the life of me, still haven't gotten NeoRageX to work on any XP build. Has anyone managed otherwise?

Unlike passing fads, like..say..."All your base", spreading crap about and flaming Microsoft seems to never get old.

Billy Gates eh? Hmm. Sometimes I wish Bill Gates really would post in here. Then we could give him a piece of our mind on this whole activation business. Not that he'd listen, but...

Thankfully, you can disable the damn dog. Now, if only MS would add the "disable ineffective piracy protection that merely pisses legitimate users off" feature. =P

ahh..the 'ol deltree /y. Great way to screw up your system, but I would still argue "rm -rf /" on a UNIX box would still hose your system more. Then again, there are more ways to destroy a UNIX system than list directories, so it's not like that's a good thing =]

hmm. Just tried 2454. For some reason, my NIC still won't work. Just checking, does anyone get a better list of NIC hardware than me? When I go to list the hardware drivers, I get like just a few cards.

That's IT I installed Win2k again to see if I could try upgrading from there, and even it now is starting to ***** about the card. This POS has GOT to go. Oh well, who needs DVD playback anyway? it's all overrated, I tell ya. (The card I'm replacing is a DVD decoding card.) I'll be damn sure the next computer I buy/build will have so many damn PCI slots it won't be funny. OF course, then PCI will become obsolete....ahh. You gotta love PCs.

ThC - it's not that I'm too cheap to buy a PCI NIC, it's that it won't fit. Period. There are no more PCI slots left...in fact, I think there is only one ISA slot left -- like that's going to do any good. 4&20 (hehe...THC and 4:20...amusing) - I think I'll give that a shot.

It's a Linksys 16 Ethernet LAN card. Yes, it's ISA. Under Win2k (and build 2296), it would've used the "NE2000 Compatible" driver. When I go to add hardware manually (that is, not asking windows to try to detect the card, which it can't), I get like 3 manufacturers, each with a max of 4 cards each. I have no idea why this is.

I suspect the main reason that doesn't work is because one of your Win2k drivers doesn't work so well in the new XP environment. I remember upgrading from 2K to 2296 worked fine, but after that, it's BSOD hell if I tried it with any later builds. Usually, BSODs mean driver problems. However, when the RC's come out, MS will probably work towards virtually every Win2k driver working in XP as it did in 2K.

Yeah, is it me, or JDulmage being more of a jerk than usual? Pull the stick out of your a$$ buddy, it's an OS. No one's insulted your mother or anything. Too bad I can't say the same for you.

Now that you gotten the usual flame response from the most popular guy here ::cough::, perhaps you would like a more helpful opinion. As for as going from 98 to XP goes, this is a big deal. XP certainly has more stabability than 9x/ME does, and, supposedly, will have speed comparable to it assuming you have a decent about of ram (128+). XP will also support hardware that 2K did not in the past. How much more is open to question, but I would take a guess that MS is going for as much 9x compatability as possible. Justifying a move from Windows 2K is tougher. If all your programs work to your satisfaction in 2K, the upgrade to XP may not be worth the money. Also, if stabability is a concern, even the final release of WinXP will probably not be as solid as 2K is now, until it goes through the usual set of service packs. If you're a business that is using active directory, you might have to go to XP, as MS has said that a huge bug discovered 12 months ago in active directory will only be fixed by upgrading to XP. Also, if you have a decent sized network, you know what a pain it is to upgrade all those machines to a new MS OS (or any OS for that matter). Double that if you have domain servers and the like. So that has to be weighed into consideration as well. As for activation, in its current form, it's easily bypassed. If you prefer, buy one copy, and just apply a crack/whatever to the rest of the copies you want to install on your network. Right now, all you have to do is change an easy-to-find registry key. Note I wouldn't try this if you're a legitimate business...from what I've seen, MS will find you. That's my take on the subject.

Hm, Four and Twenty, that's interesting. The instruction manual specifically says that MS "highly recommends" you use both ports. The PS/2 for KB, and the "optional" USB port if you want to use the USB ports on the KB. I wonder if yours is a later model...

Yeah, SHS, I was thinking more of the IBM PC architecture. At any rate, those ports are OLD. Thankfully, I've been upgrading my hardware so I use USB instead. My joystick and parallel ports are vacant. Not my PS/2 KB port tho. This nice new MS Natural KB Pro keyboard I got still uses it...it also uses a USB port, but that's for the two USB ports that are on the KB itself...go figure.

The PC has always been about legacy, and it probably always will be. The serial and paralled port have been in there since 1981, and while they may finally be on their way out, they sure enjoyed a longer run than they likely should've. Of course Apple could do what they did with the iMac. Their architecture is mostly closed: they decide what goes in their machines. A PC architecture is mostly open. Unless a standard has been developed (and one finally was), you'll see legacy crap like COM ports, etc. If you want it done right, you might as well throw some more stuff out. Sure, ISA is dead (I wouldn't use it if I had more PCI slots, but since I dont...), but PCI is showing its age too. It won't be long before we will be arguing PCI needs to die too. The PC's greatest asset is also its greatest weakness. It's open architecture means in order for it to truly change, all the major PC manufacturers have to do it. There are other examples of things that simply need to go. But dealing with legacy will probably always be part of life as a PC user... At least it's cheaper than proprietary hardware...

It's not that I don't have the money to get a PCI NIC, hell, they're cheap enough. It's that there are no PCI slots left. Period. Win2k supported the card just fine, and I am sure XP will too. And no, "get a new computer/motherboard/etc" is not the answer I want to hear. Nor will it be to many users MS is trying to convince people to upgrade. My computer is well winthin spec of what XP's requirements are, despite being almost 2 years old. I spent $2300 on this machine (w/o monitor) and I'll be damned if I'm gonna get another $2000 machine cause MS doesn't feel like supporting ISA.

ahh...the story I've read many times. But can anyone tell me this. Why is it that Steve Jobs "borrowed" from Xerox PARC to do his GUI, but Bill Gates "stole" from Apple to do his? Isn't this a kind of double standard? Is it because Steve Jobs is the "good guy"? Maybe Bill Gates should change his name to Steve Jobs. While Stevie himself has been known to be anything but a role model (some would go so far as to say he's an A-Hole), it doesn't matter. He's the good guy. Why, you ask? I have no idea.

As an Aureal (Turtle Beach Montego II) user, I can say that I know where you are coming from. Aureal is dead, and Creative Labs is sending out a collective "screw you" the customers of the company they bought out. Having said that, amazingly, both Win2K and Whistler manage to install a WDM that works decently on this machine. It might start to pop every now and then, but I guess that's better than not working at all. What surprises me is that my ISA NIC is still not supported by XP, despite its being NE2000 compatible. I'm guessing that will certainly be fixed by Beta 2.

Quote: <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by DeadCats: The original "Windows" was created by Bill Gates and Microsoft while coding OS/2 for IBM. Gates disagreed with much of the software architecture requirements that IBM demanded for OS/2 and wanted them to incorporate his ideas for a windowed, graphical operating system, instead. </font> Actually, interesting that you should bring that up. One of the things I've read that he disagreed with was a 30 MINUTE bootup time. IBM, being still stuck in mainframe land, where this was acceptable behavior, saw no problem with it. IBM started a revolution with its PCs, but throughout most of the 80s, didn't believe they would ever amount to anything and that mainframes were still the way to go. Hell, in some ways, they still don't get it.

Oh just wait. While that article in itself was yet more MS bashing ("All your Base" is already becoming passe, but MS bashing is here to stay), that's nothing compared to the crap those talkback people write. OS bigotry is always painful to read, cause it's just so silly. [This message has been edited by Hit (edited 24 February 2001).]

Yeah, after thinking about it, it does seem kind of a weak copy protection scheme. I mean, a plaintext registry key in a rather obvious location. Clearly, MS does not intend for this to be a professional solution. I am more in thinking with others who have said it seems to be more of an experiment more than anything else at this point. MS want's to see what reaction to this is going to be. Personally, I think it's a rather poor idea given it doesn't stop ***** people/hackers whatsoever and inconveniences those who support MS the most: businesses. Already MS is having trouble trying to convince business who bought into NT to upgrade to Win2k...Imagine how much more tough it'll be to convince them to upgrade again to XP. I'm not sure a copy protection scheme such as this one would help the issue. There is also word of a broader plan: subscription. Since there is no hard evidence on this plan yet, I'm going to assume it as just rumor and HOPE that MS reconsiders if they are thinking of implementing this idea.

Screenshots have been posted in various newsites. And I'll have to disagree with jdulmage here...that interface looks WAY different in my eyes. I wonder if the "old" Whistler interface is still selectable.