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Hmm, maybe I should of been more clear on that. This is a W2k problem, not a general problem. In 98SE at 800x600x32 I'm pulling around between 20-30fps in UT with my little old TNT1. The only apps I run in 16 bit colour on it are the ones that only run in 16 bit colour

VESA is a Dos display driver so I doubt you'll ever get it to work in W2k since it doesn't support Dos things of that nature

Well, either that announcement will be really good aka "We have working driver, dload them now!" or it will be really bad aka "We will never do Win 2k drivers nyya nyaa" Hopefully the first one

I've seen people have problems with their TNT drivers working with 2k, their TNTs working well and then there's a whole sub-vision of UT and Q3 problems and performance but I seem to have an unique one, I can't get any 3D apps running in 1024x786(16 or 32 colour) I have an Asus v3400 TNT1 with all the goodies in it and I just scammed the v3.96 (whatever the # is, the newest from a couple of days ago) drivers and this problem is still there. I don't have this problem in 98 so I wonder why 2k is doing it. Any sugestions?

It's AGP and I did not play with the inf file. So, if it is a refresh problem, how to I move the screen over? My monitor has knobs that just shift the screen and nothing fancy. In 98 the Asus and nVidia drivers had an option to move and resize the screen in the display properties but I have yet to find any with nVidia's ref 2000 drivers.

What exactly happens? At that res I get one single fuzzle line in the middle of my screen. I can see stuff in the fuzz but it's definently not legible. This only happens in D3D and OpenGL.

Also the apps are anything - UT, Q3, 3DMark2000, Asheron's Call, you name it - everything at 1024x768 can't display

Hey, just because Quake and UT don't run at their best in 1024x786 on a TNT1 doesn't mean everything else doesn't fly Anyways, it is both D3D and OGL that don't work at 1024. My monitor can't go above it so I dunno about any res's above but everything below is fine. I run my desktop at 800x600. I am running the final build of W2K (no early beta or RC#.) I even installed the new 3.75 drivers and the same problems persist with a big fuzzy line in the screen like if the monitor was moved too far over.

Nobody has any ideas or suggestions as to why I can't run any 3d based program in 1024x786 without getting a bunch of crazy lines like I moved my monitor position too far? Crap

Hello. Currently right now I have a Celeron 300a oc'ed to 375, 196 megs of ram, Asus P2B mobo, Asus TNT1 and an SBLive. My friend got himself a Celeron 433 dirt cheap from this one store and I'm wondering if I should go nab one while they're cheap. I'm just wondering because these newer Celerons are all 370 chips and I'm with a slot 1 mobo. The adapter I saw my friend get had a jumper on it for 66/100 bus. Now... would a Celeron like that be worth it for me, and can I oc it like I'm doing now? Right now I'm doing an 83 bus and I'd love to do the same with anything else but I've never read of people oc'ing with those 370 chips in an adapter in a slot 1 mobo. That 66/100 jumper on the adapter is causing me to think you can only do those bus speeds with a 370 chip in it? I realize this is more of a general hardware question than a W2k one, sorry. Mind you with W2k out in some various methods, the retail selling in only a few weeks and (hopefully) more stable and optimized drivers coming out I'm wondering if that little extra bit of speed could help me out any in 2k as well as 98SE since it looks like I'll be stuck in it for my gaming needs for a while longer.

So....should I upgrade my Slot 1 C300a to a socket370 Celeron 433 and overclocking it to at least an 83mhz bus work on my Asus P2B mobo? Sorry, but my origanal question keeps getting sideswiped into something else and well, I'd like to know

Yeah I tried the 100 and Windows kept on farting out after a few mins. I didn't realize that I never had the test jumper flipped not too long ago but oh well, might play with it if I ever get bored and run some tests and whatever. ...however the question remains, should I bother with the 433 Celeron? From the sounds of it I can oc it dispite the adaptor's 66/100 jumper. The thing costs about $130 Cnd so I'm wondering if it's worth it and if it's possible to get an 83mhz bus out of a thing like that

I tried his site... the files are just a bunch of files and registries tossed together in a zip. Nobody has any normal LW3 installs like the ones you can dload off Creative's site? Apparently from what I've read here that the cd files usually work while those NT4 files on site usually don't work. I'd like to give it a shot with the cd files

Hey...is there any place on the net with the LW3 drivers from the cd all zipped up? I can only get the NT4 drivers off of Creative's page, and damn me for buying the soundcard back when it came out with only Liveware 1

Just to make more of a stir... I was reading an old Next Generation mag from close to a couple of years ago. One of the new blurbs was of MS's Direct X meeting they had with a bunch of game publishers like EA, Origin, etc. It mentioned that they were telling them they would like them to start writing for the NT kernal and to start moving away from the 9x kernal. Hmmm... Also, Win2k isn't for the average consumer because the average consumer is dumb. What I mean is us guys can install the thing, realize that the default drivers stink really bad but we know how to get new ones and then it's all good right? Most people would be saying,"What's a driver?". Even my one friend that should know better, he just sticks a cd in, clicks yes a few times and then as far as he's concerned he's done and if it doesn't work well then he complains. Heh, now that's the ideal PC fantasy world