Four and Twenty

Personally I would rather scroll down than sideways

I and trying to build a computer with a friend of mine and we are having a hell of a time getting it running. Here is the story: Parts: MB: Asus A7V CPU: T-bird 950 RAM: NEC Multisync PC 133 CDROM: Creative Labs 52x HDD: Maxtor 41 gb ata 100 diamond max video: Matrox g400 dual head with the matrox card in there it will not boot at all and nothing will display on the screen I also get a series of beeps that according to the manual means no video card found or bad video card. When i swaped that with the tnt2 from my comp the computer will boot and i can enter the bios but random lockups will occur in the bios and it will not reboot it must be turned off and then on again. Also the g400 works beautifly in my comp. quick boot mode is enabled by default if i turn it off the ram will try and clear but when it counts to the top it will start at the bottom and loop endlessly. It does the same with a simmens 128 meg pc100 chip if i use that. with quick boot on and the pc100 ram and the tnt it will boot and go through the bois but never boots. sometimes it will display the message "setup is inspecting your hardware comfiguration" when it tries to boot off of the win2k cd but it never really goes beyond that. I really don't know what to do. i have tried the mb on jumerfree mode and i have also tried setting the jumpers as the manual shows. But either way the computer just will not boot or even run reliably in the bios. I am wondering if anyone has any thoughs on something that i might try.

I am sure that the vid card was properly seated booth times i had it in there. What do you mean re-ground the mb isn't the grounding done through the power supply? Anyway we are getting a replacement of both mb and ram so we shall jsut have to wait till thursday to see if that was the prob. We are still tring to to get the gd comp running anyway though. [This message has been edited by Four and Twenty (edited 06 September 2000).]

Quote: Originally posted by INFERNO2000: 2: multiple computers(SUCK AS MYSELF) well it seems we all say somthing that we don't really mean sometimes. And as to NormanSmiley you are an idiot this is not a mindless BB and out of all the BB's I have seen on the topic of NT/2K this is by far the best, and do you know why it is the best? Because most of the people who post here are highly knowledgeable, friendly and helpful. And no I do not think that I am elite because of the number of posts I have made. It seems that you are the p*ssy that is posting a bunch of crap to become a senior member. Also if you think that the pages here are an eyesore don't look at them, go look at some smut and leave us the f*ck alone! And no your inability to type a coherent sig does not piss me off. The fact that there are people out there that are as dumb as you and dumber kind of makes me feel like lesser of a person for being part of the same species. ------------------ My System Dell Demension XPS T500 Triple Boot Windows 2000 Pro 2195 / Windows Whistler Pro 2250 / Windows Millennium Final PIII @ 500 Mhz (with after market heatsink and dual fan) 128 Megs PC133 Ram TNT2 Ultra Graphics Card (with the core and memory overclocked by 20 Mhz and dual voodoo coolers) 3Com 10/100 Ethernet Card 3Com 56k Modem 12.6 Gig IBM HD 40X CD Rom Drive 100 Mb Zip Drive

The reason the the eval text is displayed is thatyou are running an eval copy the cd key is not the issue. If you take the eval cdkey and use it on a real copy it does not install the eval. I just doesn't work like that. Why do you think it says that at the bottom of the screen? p.s. I have emailed you a fix ------------------ My System Dell Demension XPS T500 Triple Boot Windows 2000 Pro 2195 / Windows Whistler Pro 2250 / Windows Millennium Final PIII @ 500 Mhz (with after market heatsink and dual fan) 128 Megs PC133 Ram TNT2 Ultra Graphics Card (with the core and memory overclocked by 20 Mhz and dual voodoo coolers) 3Com 10/100 Ethernet Card 3Com 56k Modem 12.6 Gig IBM HD 40X CD Rom Drive 100 Mb Zip Drive [This message has been edited by Four and Twenty (edited 05 September 2000).]

Yes AMD is planning a SMP capable chipset and I think it will be out soon but i forget when. You can bet your ass that the AMD price/performance ratio will beat Intels for a good long while especialy with Intel doing a recall on $20 million worth of p3s right now. ------------------ My System Dell Demension XPS T500 Triple Boot Windows 2000 Pro 2195 / Windows Whistler Pro 2250 / Windows Millennium Final PIII @ 500 Mhz (with after market heatsink and dual fan) 128 Megs PC133 Ram TNT2 Ultra Graphics Card (with the core and memory overclocked by 20 Mhz and dual voodoo coolers) 3Com 10/100 Ethernet Card 3Com 56k Modem 12.6 Gig IBM HD 40X CD Rom Drive 100 Mb Zip Drive

Yes inferno I did mean older Hey NormanSmiley why don't you wait until you are a senior member before you start getting critical? Besides what is the damn problem with a long sig did you have to scroll? Heaven forbid you would have to scroll! Or is it that you think that his sig, which amounts to 1.46 k, was a burden on your bandwidth (even on a slow modem that would only mean an extra second wait max and I doubt your time is that precious.) And on a last a final note are you really so self centered that you think that because you don't care about his systems that others must share your opinion as well. Here is my sig hope you enjoy it! ------------------ My System Dell Demension XPS T500 Triple Boot Windows 2000 Pro 2195 / Windows Whistler Pro 2250 / Windows Millennium Final PIII @ 500 Mhz (with after market heatsink and dual fan) 128 Megs PC133 Ram TNT2 Ultra Graphics Card (with the core and memory overclocked by 20 Mhz and dual voodoo coolers) 3Com 10/100 Ethernet Card 3Com 56k Modem 12.6 Gig IBM HD 40X CD Rom Drive 100 Mb Zip Drive

well the trick is that you will have to figure out how to boot up in the 98 that is on your c: drive once you have installed a copy on your d: drive. Because it will want to boot the copy on the d: drive. But you must boot in win 98 off the c: drive to do the upgrade. Kind of a catch 22 if you ask me. My best recomandation is get winme off of a warez site (becase it is not worth the money even if you have it) boot up in win 98 on c: then install me on d: then install win2k on c:\ as an upgrade. The reason this will work is because winme does not destroy win2k's boot loader. Then when you are through with all that why not add whistler aswell? ------------------ My System Dell Demension XPS T500 Triple Boot Windows 2000 Pro 2195 / Windows Whistler Pro 2250 / Windows Millennium Final PIII @ 500 Mhz (with after market heatsink and dual fan) 128 Megs PC133 Ram TNT2 Ultra Graphics Card (with the core and memory overclocked by 20 Mhz and dual voodoo coolers) 3Com 10/100 Ethernet Card 3Com 56k Modem 12.6 Gig IBM HD 40X CD Rom Drive 100 Mb Zip Drive

as for as i know if you want to use outlook, outlook express must be installed aswell or else it will not work so this idea you have about unistalling outlook express, for whatever reason, sounds like a bad idea to me. But if you feel the need go ahead and try it out. ------------------ My System Dell Demension XPS T500 Triple Boot Windows 2000 Pro 2195 / Windows Whistler Pro 2250 / Windows Millennium Final PIII @ 500 Mhz (with after market heatsink and dual fan) 128 Megs PC133 Ram TNT2 Ultra Graphics Card (with the core and memory overclocked by 20 Mhz and dual voodoo coolers) 3Com 10/100 Ethernet Card 3Com 56k Modem 12.6 Gig IBM HD 40X CD Rom Drive 100 Mb Zip Drive [This message has been edited by Four and Twenty (edited 04 September 2000).]

well i am thinking that it is a bad mother board because the video card and ram working other computers and the ram clearing loop happens with both ram dimms

it really depends on the hardware aswell as the software. But I would say apps like that belong in win2k because it sucks to get a BSOD if you are atempting to get something done and Win Me, like all of its older siblings, is BSOD prone. ------------------ My System Dell Demension XPS T500 Triple Boot Windows 2000 Pro 2195 / Windows Whistler Pro 2250 / Windows Millennium Final PIII @ 500 Mhz (with after market heatsink and dual fan) 128 Megs PC133 Ram TNT2 Ultra Graphics Card (with the core and memory overclocked by 20 Mhz and dual voodoo coolers) 3Com 10/100 Ethernet Card 3Com 56k Modem 12.6 Gig IBM HD 40X CD Rom Drive 100 Mb Zip Drive [This message has been edited by Four and Twenty (edited 05 September 2000).]

just got done drinking a cold crisp pepsi when i saw this post. i will drink coke from time to time but only if there is no pepsi or other good drink around.

how about one for Win ME? anyone know where to find that? why don't they just include it with the damn os at least an optional compnent on the cd or something anyway not perticularly urgent since i never really use winme anyway

Well I guess I really don't care if it does "call home" because there is no way that MS is going to come knocking down my door cause I wanted to see the latest ****.

Only the finest organic homegrown being smoked here and the suppy is plentiful. I don't think that my post was that harsh we are after all talking about an AOL user.

AOL Sucks why the hell would anyone want to use it? But anyway if there is such a thing as AOL 6.0, which I have never heard of, I would imagine some idiot, determined enough to get it, might attempt it at aol.com as it is the company's website. ------------------ My System Dell Demension XPS T500 Triple Boot Windows 2000 Pro 2195 / Windows Whistler Pro 2250 / Windows Millennium Final PIII @ 500 Mhz (with after market heatsink and dual fan) 128 Megs PC133 Ram TNT2 Ultra Graphics Card (with the core and memory overclocked by 20 Mhz and dual voodoo coolers) 3Com 10/100 Ethernet Card 3Com 56k Modem 12.6 Gig IBM HD 40X CD Rom Drive 100 Mb Zip Drive

Quote: i want cache the partition of each system from the other, for security, and i want have the sames drives letters. what the hell r u talking about [This message has been edited by Four and Twenty (edited 19 August 2000).]

I also found the beta to be more stable (not what you would think)

Is there a firewall program that can make it so that no one except my isp can get my ip address? If so what is it? Oh yeah it has to work with my 56k modem (getting fiber soon ) ------------------ My System Dell Demension XPS T500 Triple Boot Windows 2000 Pro 2195 / Windows Whistler Pro 2250 / Windows Millennium Final PIII @ 500 Mhz (with after market heatsink and dual fan) 128 Megs PC133 Ram TNT2 Ultra Graphics Card (with the core and memory overclocked by 20 Mhz and dual voodoo coolers) 3Com 10/100 Ethernet Card 3Com 56k Modem 12.6 Gig IBM HD 40X CD Rom Drive 100 Mb Zip Drive

Win Me really does suck but I keep it around for some stuff like extracting my warez (the stuff where you need to run those sketchy batch files) and playing my games. So I guess I use Win Me about 1% of the time i use my comp the other 99% is Whistler. ------------------ My System Dell Demension XPS T500 Triple Boot Windows 2000 Pro 2195 / Windows Whistler Pro 2250 / Windows Millennium Final PIII @ 500 Mhz (with after market heatsink and dual fan) 128 Megs PC133 Ram TNT2 Ultra Graphics Card (with the core and memory overclocked by 20 Mhz and dual voodoo coolers) 3Com 10/100 Ethernet Card 3Com 56k Modem 12.6 Gig IBM HD 40X CD Rom Drive 100 Mb Zip Drive

i agree that some programs don't like it (winamp is my only prob) but i find it to be more stable than win2k sp1 and faster Use it about 99% if the time and it runs great even games run well. I love it and i can't wait for the first beta.

i agree that some programs don't like it (winamp is my only prob) but i find it to be more stable than win2k sp1 and faster Use it about 99% if the time and it runs great even games run well. I love it and i can't wait for the first beta.

There are no huge peices missing. I have problems with winamp though it will not open the menus. Everything else works great it is faster and more stable than 2k and it looks cooler. I use it as my primary os right now and it works great. It also works great in a multiple boot configuration and yes it will set up the menu for you. Oh yeah the driver thing well i haven't installed any. It has drivers for all of my hardware and it all works so I am not sure if win2k drivers would work. ------------------ My System Dell Demension XPS T500 Triple Boot Windows 2000 Pro 2195 / Windows Whistler Pro 2250 / Windows Millennium Final PIII @ 500 Mhz (with after market heatsink and dual fan) 128 Megs PC133 Ram TNT2 Ultra Graphics Card (with the core and memory overclocked by 20 Mhz and dual voodoo coolers) 3Com 10/100 Ethernet Card 3Com 56k Modem 12.6 Gig IBM HD 40X CD Rom Drive 100 Mb Zip Drive

I ran betas of ME for over 2 months with no such problems and the final gives me no problems either. However my primary OS right now is Whistler and I use Me to play games for a couple of hours a week and I only have games and new video drivers installed. So I guess if the OS is a flawed as previous versions of 9.x i probably don't use it enough for these problems to occur. I remeber back when I used 98 and 98 only would reformat and reinstall about once a month to get almost kind of mildy reliable perforamce out of the OS. When Winblows reformat and reinstall and your probelms are sovled at least for a little while. ------------------ My System Dell Demension XPS T500 Triple Boot Windows 2000 Pro 2195 / Windows Whistler Pro 2250 / Windows Millennium Final PIII @ 500 Mhz (with after market heatsink and dual fan) 128 Megs PC133 Ram TNT2 Ultra Graphics Card (with the core and memory overclocked by 20 Mhz and dual voodoo coolers) 3Com 10/100 Ethernet Card 3Com 56k Modem 12.6 Gig IBM HD 40X CD Rom Drive 100 Mb Zip Drive

perhaps you are not using the same drivers as before that can have a big impact on framrate. Go to http://www.nvidia.com/Products/Drivers.nsf and get the latest drivers and post your full system specs and drvier versions when you ask questions here it make it easier for people to answer your questions ------------------ My System Dell Demension XPS T500 Triple Boot Windows 2000 Pro 2195 / Windows Whistler Pro 2250 / Windows Millennium Final PIII @ 500 Mhz (with after market heatsink and dual fan) 128 Megs PC133 Ram TNT2 Ultra Graphics Card (with the core and memory overclocked by 20 Mhz and dual voodoo coolers) 3Com 10/100 Ethernet Card 3Com 56k Modem 12.6 Gig IBM HD 40X CD Rom Drive 100 Mb Zip Drive