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LOL, nice.

I missed DF's reply earlier since this was sitting at the reply screen for quite a while . The reason for MS making note of NT4's SP3 (and many applications doing the same) was because of many *MAJOR* fixes that came with that. Also, wasn't DirectX first introduced with it (DX3)? When you see applications being installed for 9x, it didn't matter what version it was for 95, as I don't recall there ever being a need for an Office 97 upgrade from 95 or whatever requiring Win95B. Although you couldn't actually *get* B/OSR2/2.1/C unless it was OEM anyway, but you could patch it up manually although there were only a few patches that were needed for some things (like DUN). The only mentions that I have ever seen for very specific SP levels were Win98SE (WDM and improved USB support), NT SP3 (as mentioned before), NT SP4 (IE4 and Active Desktop), and NT SP5 (NTFS 5 support). Does anyone recall any major fixes in Win2K SP3? Win2K SP1 fixed a lot of DNS and AD issues, and SP2 did a bit of polishing, but the only thing that stands out with SP3 is the new EULA. Anyone have any other suggestions?

Forcing 9x out is one thing, but I find it odd that they would feel it necessary for the cutoff point to be Win2K with SP3 installed, and not just "Windows 2000". That seems pretty odd to me, and I hope that is cleared up in the future. On the topic of Linux, it is generally considered an "alternative" OS. And by nature, alternatives are choices other than the normal way of doing things. This has it pros and cons, and usually you have a reason for selecting the alternative. For me, it was their licensing and school, for others it is simply the cost, and still others use it because they hate MS/BG and take everything they do personally. If you're happy with Windows, then cool. My first exposure to Windows was back around '92 when I was working at a Radio Shack and we had some machines coming in with Windows (I can vaguely remember the box having a synthesizer on the cover and wondering what the hell that was on there for, and I was told that it was a "multimedia" OS ). Well, I was more used to DOS at the time but only as a casual user, so I never made much of Windows in general. The next time I bumped into it was with Windows 3.1, and I hated it with a passion and refused to run it, so I stuck with DOS again. Then came 95 (and all the designations of A, B/OSR2.1, C), 98, 98SE, NT4, 2K, and now XP. I think that I have just come to a point where change would be good, and I have enough reasons to make the leap into something else. If you stick with MS, great. But if you're ready to move over to Linux, we'll be here.

Mandrake is pretty nice, and is quite a bit easier to configure than many other distros. Maybe you can come on over to www.linuxcompatible.org and we can see about getting that thing doing more...

Umm, I'm sure that I am following what you are looking for, but let me explain something that might help you get your answer. If you have a server running as a domain controller, and you open "Active Directory Users and Computers" (either on the server or from a client admin station), any user you add will be a domain user and any group you add that person to in that interface would be domain-wide (there are other things, such as child domains, that this could expand on but we'll drop them for simplicity's sake right now). Now, say you were on a client PC or member server, and opened the User Manger from the Computer Management console. Next, you open "Groups" and then "Administrators". In there, you can click "Add" and select from what location you want to add a user from. On member PCs and Servers, you get a choice of the local system or the domain as locations, whereas on domain controllers you will only have the domain to select from as they have no traditional "local" account management. So, if you were to open the admin group on a PC, and add a user from the domain to that admin group, then the user would become a local admin for that system. HTH

Quote: The linux community is too fragmented to be of any use in the enterprise situation. What ultimately happens, the initial deployent can only be administored by those who deployed it, because the variety of distros and no standard among them, leaving an IT nightmare for those who may be admins after the fact. Well, I can see your angle to a certain extent, but unfortunately the perception is mostly driven by people that haven't used *nix OSs that much (myself included at one time). However, many mainstream and server applications will install properly on all of the Linux OSs using the same source tarballs. In addition, these systems can all be managed the same way using the same tools most of the time. The major differences lie in the window managers, shells, and utilities. And yes, the huge number of combinations that can be made of these choices could be daunting to manage after they have been setup, but a properly setup LAN should be documented to begin with and standardized to some degree. I have walked into many networks where there was a mass of confusion just using MS OSs with varying patch/SP levels and no idea what to do next. And this doesn't include the applications that were installed either. If you were to give a good, recent distribution and honest shot, you might be surprised at what you see. However, as I have said before, my reasons for going to Linux have mostly been with MS licensing practices and getting ready to go to school where the CS department uses only Linux (because of MS licensing costs and restrictions).

Quote: Such a sweet board to put such a dull OS on it. I guess i need to go back to work So i can get bored of Windows as well.......... /sigh Hmmm, just give it a shot and some time. I seem to remember a certain Intel zealot that used to be hardcore AMD only a short time ago...

Quote: Too bad your using linux on it. LOL! Why do you say that? There are only 2 games that I even bother playing, and both of them (Q3A and UT2K3) can not only run natively in Linux but have run even faster (generally around 10%) in it than in Windows 2K or XP Pro. As for everything else it's all been great, and I plan on getting the NIC up and running tonight.

Depends on the disto and what you want to do. You can do a loop mount with Debian and your install can stay in sync with the latest stable release if you want, and MS has just recently caught on to that idea with their automated updates utility. Bear in mind that there are still many 2.2.x and older kernels running out there and a lot of applications (even newer ones) work just fine with them.

If you are having some issues with this, you should check out this utility then: http://zeus.fh-brandenburg.de/~schwanz/php/komba.php3 It's a very nice front end for smbmnt/smbmount/smbumount and is fairly intuitive. Just make sure that you have all the needed packages first, as explained on the site. It also runs in KDE (or just using the KDE libraries, I imagine) and makes life a bit easier.

Here's another one: http://www.bnro.de/~schmidjo/index.html I am hoping that this one will work right in KDE3, as I am having issues with Komba2 in Red Hat 8 (even with the Beta Komba2, I can't right click on the workgroup/shares in order to enter info).

Actually, I really like Office XP, but I am just tired of the licensing. Since I am moving toward Linux anyway this is just another push to keep going. I figured that they were going to can support for NT4 and 9x, but I have yet to understand why the new Office would *need* Win2K's SP3 rather than just be compliant with the RTM on up. Also, the upgrade from 97 to 2000 was a huge benefit, especially with Outlook (v97 sucked, while v98 was a huge jump and 2000 merely extended upon it).

I have RedHat 8 on it right now, as I am waiting for some fixes with Debian to come through via the kernel so I could my main OS back on it (Debian). So far, so good. I installed Q3 on it last night with the newest patch, and it ran creamy smooth. Also, my Plextor burner is now being picked up properly by some apps on this mobo, as opposed to my old SOYO where it wouldn't. I haven't tried using the onboard NIC yet, as there were some needed kernel patches and such in Debian and I disabled the sound so I could use my Audigy Platinum. I would have to say that this board is awesome though. It's running the CPU at 150MHz FSB and the RAM at 375 (vs. the rated 333) and is very, very, stable. I guess the Mushkin RAM along with other nice parts help with that though . So what did you get with yours? I got mine with the Broadcom NIC and onboard audio, although I wouldn't have minded the SATA and RAID, but those aren't something I would use right now anyway.

ASUS P4PE P4 2.4Ghz (Rev. @ 2.7GHz

Konqueror is awesome! I run it in Debian at work and home, although I had to install RedHat8 on my new system (ASUS P4PE with 2.4@2.7GHz) because I had some issues getting Debian to play nice with my GF4 and my SB Audigy. However, RH8 doesn't take issue with either. In any case, since I am now using RH again I have been working with Mozilla, and it's OK, just not as fast as Konqueror.

You don't know how to use the logs in IIS? Um, ok. Well, don't go reinstalling it yet (although you might have by now). What you do is go into the site properties, and you will see the logging options drop down box. You will probably have W3C logging enabled, as that is the default. Any case, as long as you have that or the MS IIS format we should be fine (ODBC is for connecting to a DB and dumping the logs to it, which is what I use and I am not sure about NCA). Now, go to %systemroot%\system32\logfiles and you will see directories for each of the IIS services in there. Now, go to the one for your given service and site, and then look for the most recent one and open it in Notepad. You can then check out what your issues are. If you can't find any useful information in there, you can configure the logs to capture more info by selecting the logging format that was shown earlier, and then clicking "Properties". Next, go to the "Extended Properties" tab and add whatever you want. Once you save that, IIS will start a new break in the current file and you will see the adjusted columns.

If you see "GLcore", you should comment that out as well.

I like Konqueror...err, wrong forum...

Well, have you checked the NTFS permissions on it? What is the extension of the file? Is it being blocked by a security util such as IISLockdown or URLScan? Have you actually read the logs in IIS?

Use smoothwall, and that machine would be overkill (in other words, go for it). Since smoothwall is made to *be* a firewall, it would be a better choice than setting up RRAS in NT or adding another app to NT to make it work.

I haven't setup one, but I have read that it works fairly well. I wouldn't bother with it though unless I had a large network and 1 or more apps that demanded high bandwidth (or there are apps that are hogging up bandwidth and can't be controlled though other means, such as removal).

Plus if you install it from the network (as mentioned in the link) you can centrally manage the patches and push out updates via Active Directory and/or scripting. You can also install on demand without needing the CD all the time.

Just wanted to say that microsizers rock. I picked up the Mazda RX-7 (I am waiting for my red Mitsubishi Evolution to show up, so I got one on a different frequency) today and it's a ton of fun. Oh, and I am happy to report that it appears to be fully compatible with both Windows 2000 and Linux. www.microsizers.com

This link should cover you question: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;Q284273& Be sure to read through it first, and then make your decision on how to deploy it across your network.

Quote: I'll just make my own browser like (Tech Launcher www.computergenx.com) Screw the bandwagon, I want to jump on the performance wagon. You list Techlauncher, yet you also list the "bandwagon" browsers as well? http://www.computergenx.com/tech/tindex.htm Also, is your browser coded from the ground up, or simply a front end for IE/existing components in the OS?