JediBaron

You said it! As per my last post I was saying how 3DO said that they would never patch their programming to work correctly in Win2k. 3DO is unfortunatly owned by EA. This company pisses me off want to play MM7 w/ hardware acceleration and Army Men 2!!

All right, now that's what I'm talking about Please help me email 3DO into submission as per the original post Thanks, guys

Thanks for all the great replies guys. I understand that Microsoft is going to be releasing ME, but I doubt that I will switch from my Win2k. My personal belief is that this 'no games are supposed to work with Win2k' approach is a bunch of garbage. That's exactly what people said about Win95 when it came out. Some companies then, like 3DO now, continued to make progs for DOS, saying stuff like 'Win95 isn't fast enough' or 'This prog can't run good with multitasking', etc. The good news is that they figured out how many benifits there was to using Win95's features, and POOF! no new DOS games were under development within a year of Win95's release. I personally agree quite strongly with Damien Green who said that it's really just sloppy programming that keeps games from working. Also, this thing with slow release of drivers is utter stupidity. All the major companies must have had the final driver roadmap for Win2k and a solid developer beta well over a year before the release of Win2k. What? Did they just think it was never going to come out? No, I know, one day MS called up Creative and said, 'hey guys, we just now made a new operating system called Win2k.' And Creative said, 'oh my God! Why didn't anyone tell us? Now we have to scramble to make drivers and all our customers have to suffer! OH NO!' Yep, that's it. Or at least what many a manufacturer would like you to think. Keep up the good posts!

Sorry, bud It must just be because your still running RC2. Go out and get yourself final.

Quote: Originally posted by ChrisX420: And how do I fool the installer???? I still have the RC2 release of Win2k. With the Compatibility Tool as explained above.

Has anyone gotten Army Men 2 to work properly? The prog installs and runs just fine, but the colors mess up in the movies and the picture distorts during game play.

Anyone?

I've installed both the Red Alert and the expansion packs - it all works. The only problem with it is in the installer - it checks the ver number of windows and stops the install. The game itself is perfectly compatible with Win2k, you just have to fool the installer to get it to load in.

Yep sure does - I have all the expansion packs up to Aftermath installed and they work just fine

Are you logged in as an administrator? There may have been other options that I had to enable in the compatibility tool. I installed it months ago, so I don't remember if I had to try other options. Try the 'Disable Heap Manager' option too. Good Luck

Now I don't know if this will fix it, but I have the Viper V770 and after I installed 5.13 my OpenGL ran, but it ran REALLY slow. The old OpenGL drivers didn't work, but finally I fixed it with the tweak utility. Just go into Display Properties >> Setting >> Advanced >> RIVA TNT2 (on mine) >> Additional Properties ... >> OpenGL Settings and change Vertical sync: to 'Off by default' and presto! my OpenGL ran just as fast as ever

I've had absolutely no prob with the Creative player since i installed it by using the Sigma drivers first. I did have to completly uninstall everything before installing the Sigma drivers though - I had tried other things first. Have you tried that (uninstall all players, the NT4 and the Sigma drivers then reinstall in order)? Also I installed the new Live!2000 from creative and I even got the cool Playcenter DVD player to work without a problem too (this last install got updated the Disk Detector so that it works perfectly too)

I had the EXACT same problem with my TNT2 AGP card. I also couldn't use Win2K's PnP - had to use the board's PnP to assign the resourses. The folloing is a qoute from my reply to another message: 'I had a really bad time getting the AGP to work stable on my FIC 2013 board. Every driver base for NVidia over 3.66 enabled the AGP in directx. when I installed those drivers my Win2K would just boot to a black-screen. I switched out my board (without reinstalling, I might add ) to a DFI K6XV3 +/66 which has the same chipset (VIA MVP3) just with UDMA66 enabled and everything worked absolutely fine - even was able to turn on Win2k's PnP manager again.' Sorry I don't have better news for you, but I had to abandon FIC2013 and 503+ as my K6 motherboards of choice and move on to DFI which has run flawlessly for me in every system and every configuration.

What motherboard do you have? I had a really bad time getting the AGP to work stable on my FIC 2013 board. Every driver base for NVidia over 3.66 (may include 3.66) enabled the AGP in directx. when I installed those drivers my Win2K would just boot to a black-screen. I switched out my board (without reinstalling, I might add ) to a DFI K6XV3 +/66 which has the same chipset (VIA MVP3) just with UDMA66 enabled and everything worked absolutely fine - even was able to turn on Win2k's PnP manager again.

I was able to get it working, but first you have to install Win2k support tools off of the Win2k CD (/SUPPORT/TOOLS/SETUP.EXE). One of the tools it installs is the 'Application Compatibility Tool' - run this. Then you just select the setup prog on the C&C disk in the win and select the following options: Windows 95, Use pre-Windows 2000 Temp path Then click 'OK' Now this is where it locked up on me in my machine. I had to hit 'Ctrl-Alt-Del' and end the compatibility prog from the task monitor. Once I did that though, the setup for C&C continued to run and it installed normally. After that I haven't had any probs with the prog. Have Fun

I'm sorry, I had just assumed that you knew where the Device Manager was. Right-click on My Computer on the desktop and hit Properties. Then select the Hardware tab and then the Device Manager button. Under there you'll see a tree with Computer and if you expand out that branch you'll see the Standard PC. A right-click >> Properties on that will take you to where you want to go.

Disabling the optimizations in DirectX won't do no good. We just have to run a non-AGP driver until Via or MS fix the problem. As for the other question of where to turn off the routing - go to the device manager and under PC and then Standard PC - it's under the properties. I recomend shutting it off for all non-intel boards. (I think Intel's trying to force everyone to there systems again - I don't think they'll succeed this time either)

Nope, the Via agp drivers won't work and can't be loaded. I think we're just stuck with running 3.66 until Via does something about it. Interestingly, I was able to get the AGP optimizations working with the 3.66 drivers when a prog I was trying to get to run installed DirectX 5.0. I tried going to Dx6, but it didn't work then. Most of the games I have run in 6 or better so it sucks. I couldn't even get it my card working correctly in my FIC PA2013 2Meg board. I swapped it out to a 503+ and then it worked (with 3.66 of course)

I have also had problems with the new drivers. After many, many different tries of changing cards and such, I finally traced the prob back to my AGP. Basically it seems that the VIA AGP driver that comes with W2K doesn't work fully. The reason those earlier drivers work is because they don't enable AGP optimizations. Although I have found that the openGL driver with the latest release works much better. (you can copy the file over the other in the system32 folder)