Ok there's my problems I enable the SMTP service from the Services addin BUT I don't get the Virtual SMTP server......I have Default FTP server and Default WWW server in my IIS console.....i've tried adding it in but I just get the FTP and WWW extensions but no SMTP extensions.....yet I DO have the service started up.....do I have to go into Add/Remove then to windows components and click the message queuing services? I haven't added that, network file print services, and script debugger....could that be my problem?