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Me as well, I only use the NVidia WHQL drivers, never a problem.

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Yeah the MX versions are usually watered down. It's best to go Ti either GeForce 3 or 4 Ti will do you good for a year or so. I got lucky and got my card for $80

16 Years 1: Can't remember the name, Some computer that you had to plug into a TV for a display and use BASIC to actually run or do anything. 2: 1987 Tandy 1000HX, no hard disk, (1) 3.5 floppy, DOS 2.0 embedded on the ROM, 512K RAM, 3 color monitor. Only thing i used it for was to play Roger Wilco: Space Quest II. I am on my 47th computer now. I upgrade every 6-8 months.

Got MSI's new KT333 Ultra with PC2700 333MHz DDR last month and I love its speed and stability. Hasn't crashed on me once and everything worked right out of the box! I just wanted to know who you think makes the best AMD based motherboard. Epox doesn't do a bad job.

The poll is fine the way it is. I appreciate your help mods.

Yeah so far it has been great, i can watch a movie on either, the rush is a couple frames or so slower sometimes. One game I could play and see the desktop on the other monitor but could not mouse over to the desktop (2nd) monitor I'm sure because the game kept the mouse from doing so. These are both 17" monitors btw. I am going to get a better PCI video card for a 2nd display and give the rush a proper burial.

I have been reading a lot about how Intel is spending big money to tell people that the + rating on AMD chips is misleading. Also I have read that they are comparing the AMD XP 2000+ to the P4 2.2 Gig and so on... First of all Intel why are you saying that AMD chips are misleading at the same time you compare a 1.6GHz amd chip to a 2.2GHz gig chip and claim superiority. The 2000+ rocks your P4 2GHz yet you won't tell anyone that will you!!! So let's compare apples to oranges here...

I think windows had a bad name for stability ever since 95 classic.

Well Sapiens, at least we can agree that MSI makes a fairly good board. When you get one that hasn't been finger f&cked by every idiot salesperson at the vendor/store. This is my first MSI board, I was reluctant to by MSI sooner because of how they used to be quality wise. Now I am sold on the new one at least. BTW how well does that Dual mouse work in games?

Thank you clutch. It's proper now. And yes VIA does make its own MB.

Trying to get Abit in the place of the NForce Mistake.

AHHHH SHUCKSSSSS!!!! It was an accident, hmmm wish I could change it. Abit makes some good boards too.

Sorry, forgot that NVidia just makes the chipset.

First of all there is a huge difference between tires and chipsets. My chipset in not in danger of killing me or my family. Bottom line is I paid less for a chip and board that far out performs Intel chips of the same speed with the same stability as any of my Intel based machines. I still have money left for important things like food and bills. Wow! I get paid a lot of money to be a tech too, big deal. My peers are real, some like Intel some like AMD, there is no huge army anywhere waving big "intel rules" signs around here. Intel chips and chipset have issues as well... Ok then let's talk issues: Issue #1 Pentium® 4 Processors (not MB) Video Card Issues - Blue Screen and No Boot Experiencing blue screen problems using Windows* 2000? Consider upgrading your video card driver to the most recent. We have seen some instances where new drivers were required to handle the increased speed and performance of the Pentium® 4 processors. Experiencing no boot issues? In some cases, we’ve seen this caused by older video drivers, causing some conflicts, when an Adaptec* SCSI controller card is installed. Recommendation is to upgrade your video card driver to the most recent Sounds like a snow job to me? Issue #2 Pentium® 4 Processor (not MB) "CPU Is Unworkable Or Has Changed" Message During Boot Some Pentium® 4 processor motherboards were designed when the Pentium 4 processor was first released at 1.4 and 1.5 GHz. Since then, faster Pentium 4 processors have been introduced and the BIOS must be updated so that it can recognize the faster processor. Therefore, to correct this problem, contact your motherboard manufacturer to get the newest BIOS update Hmmm need BIOS updates? Issue #3 Pentium® 4 Processors (not MB) Windows NT* Users Service Pack 4 If you are using Windows NT* with service pack 4, then you will need to download and install the Intel® Streaming SIMD Extensions driver to take advantage of SSE2. More downloading if you are NT4.0 user! Issue #4 Why Intel canned their Timna processor. It turns out that ICH2 has an issue that only manifests with the i850 and i860 MCHs. Certain PCI cards run into a problem with certain commands that pre-fetch data from memory. Sometimes ICH2 will not invalidate pre-fetched data when it should. The issue is due to the interaction between the MCH and ICH2. Issue #5 MEMORY as in the noise problems three RIMM RDRAM solutions ran into when Intel initially launched their i820 chipset or the MTH issue Intel ran into, also related to RDRAM. Hmmm... Intel is so quiet about issues. Issue#6 Severe Interoperability Problems with Intel Chipsets: How to Fry Your i845 Motherboard Video Cards that may FRY your i845 chipset MB ATI Rage Fury Maxx - Rage 128 pro Elsa Erazor III (100 ohms) Hercules 3D Prophet 4500 SIS 305 32MB Diamond Viper II z200 Savage 2000 Diamond Viper v770 VideoLogic Vivid! XS (Kyro II) Well well chipset and CPU problems shall I go on? and sure you could dig up VIA problems but does that make your problems go away? They do exist! PERIOD!

Windows should install on any KT133, 266 or 333 with out problems. What BIOS settings are you using? What are your specs? Try pulling all the cards except video and run the install.

Those chips do appear on the low end crappy boards too you know. Stop blaming one component when their are 1000s of others on the board. A cheap voltage regulator purchased by the MB maker can cause all sorts of problems and that's just one example. Intel boards are by no means perfect, they have had issues as well. Everyone is so quick to say VIA/AMD suck when an issue pops up, but when Intel has issues it is OK?

Wow I am glad I never had any of those problems on any of my VIA boards even the 686B chip didn't hassle my SB Live at all. It really boils down to the MB Manufacturer and their level of quality, quality in components and process, perhaps you had poor cheap boards in your machines. I can name just as many crappy P3 and P4 boards as you can name socket A boards.

Quote: Originally posted by sapiens74 ...AMD machine takes 3 times more work to maintain and setup then an INtel one. From Putting on the heatsink, to bioses, 4 in 1 drivers, or whatever else, ... First of all you have to put a heatsink on any Processor, some of us choose to overclock our cpus (not over clock the BUS) so we use bigger better heatsinks. If Intel's chips were not multiplier locked you would do the same thing. 2nd, BIOS flashes are common place in both Intel and AMD based boards, they are not usually necessary unless you have problems with specific hardware components. Some of us like to keep our BIOSes up to date regardless. 3rd, Intel Provides drivers just like AMD, VIA, ALI and SIS. So how is it taking 3 times longer, let's see that would be about 9 hours or so given the average computer takes about 2.5 hours from build to complete OS load. To some, I guess double clicking on a driver executable is too much of a problem. If VIA chips suck so bad than why are they the number 2 chip maker instead of ALi or SIS?

I like task pane. How can i get it to DEFAULT ON or STAY ON all the time. It comes and goes as it f*ckin pleases, or until I got to View Task Pane or Right click on the Toolbar and bring it back. Some one help me for a change.

Sure, I open FrontPage for example and open a page on my site. The task pane is not there. I go to View and choose Task Pane. Later on when another page is loaded for edit, the task pane goes away again. This happens in all Office XP Apps. I just want the task pane to ALWAYS STAY ON!!!

It's funny how some people can put a machine together and it runs great and other can get it to work at all. Whether it be Intel or AMD on ANY chipset I rarely have any problem that takes more than 5 minutes to solve. No one seems to blame 2 huge factors in your systems stability and performance, the user and the OS. Windows is not perfect or will ever be, same with the user. Windows requires more patches and drivers to run stable than ANY piece of hardware out there. I never once heard of VIA or AMD chips crashing LinuX or Unix. Good old WIntel, MS is not in bed with AMD, so why optimize an OS for them.

I just wanted to start some mud flying. My OPINION is that Windows 2000 SP2 with IE6 and DirectX 8.1 is the choice OS these days. uh uhmmm .. At least until Lindows OS www.lindows.com is at 1.1 or so.

I'd put a down payment on house

I am able to delete the pagefile, it's the temppf.sys that exists after i get the error message.