Mr.Guvernment

Is this a waste or what..... Nvidia making ther ti4200 and g4mmx 8x AGP. I really see no point in this. ATI 9700pro card, and even AIW 9700 PRO got 8x agp, but so few motherboards have 8x suport yet, as it really is not something that is needed. yeah, it will be the next best thing, but i think it is still early to be selling these items, (although there will be many who buy them) Is this simply an attempt by Nividia to get back part of the marklet it lost to ATI since the 9700 cards have come out with 8x agp? I have already seen the ti4600 removed from dell's site, what's next! Wy didn't they just wait till their new chipset comes out and put 8x in there. FROM TOMS HARDWARE. http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/02q4/0210041/index.html Simply put, the graphics card market is divided into two large segments. One is the retail segment, which provides its customers, the do-it-yourselfers, with a single card packaged in a colorful box along with some nice extras like games. The other is the much more lucrative OEM market for off-the-shelf PCs. This second segment is definitely the more interesting one for card and chipmakers alike. After all, when a company like Dell or Gateway decides to use a certain card in one of their product lines, it means an order of several thousand cards right there. This is exactly the market NVIDIA is targeting with its refreshed GeForce4 chips NV18 and NV28. AGP 8x is the new buzzword in the OEM market and therefore the next "must-have" feature as well. After all, 8x is twice as much as 4x - right? Alright, frown if you will, but this kind of argument may well win over some first-time buyers looking through their home-order brochures. The MX440-8x now uses the newer and faster BGA memory. Although NVIDIA's reference board only used a passive heatsink to cool the chip itself, the cardmakers will surely not pass up a chance to visually "tune" their cards by including an impressive looking fan. It is hardly surprising, then, that only the two best-selling cards in NVIDIA's line-up, the budget GeForce4 MX440 and the slightly pricier Ti4200, are being treated to the newer and faster bus interface. The new versions of these chips will be called MX440-8x (NV18) and Ti4200-8x (NV28). Rumors about these revisions have been making their way through the net for a while now - ever since ATi's introduction of the Radeon 9000 PRO, to be exact. Suddenly, those companies that chose ATi's chips were able to cash in on the advertising hype around AGP 8x, leaving NVIDIA's partners stuck at "only" AGP 4x. Like it or not, in the world of OEM sales this is a clinching argument. Now NVIDIA is trying to close the gap - and just in time for the holiday season, too. A bit early? Not really, considering the contracts with OEMs are inked a long time before the actual systems using the card will be sold. The new Ti4200-8x reference board shows now outward change from its predecessor. Only the name on the chip itself gives the version away. Beyond the switch to AGP 8x, NVIDIA has also cranked up the clockspeeds of the MX440 -8x. Instead of running at 270MHz (GPU) and 400MHz DDR (memory), the new cards are set to 275/500MHz. The Ti4200-8x remains unchanged at 250/500MHz for the 64MB version. Interestingly, the memory of the reference cards supplied by NVIDIA for testing ran slightly faster, namely at 512MHz (NV18) and 514MHz (NV28). Officially, both cards are being advertised as using a memory clockspeed of 500MHz, though. [/list:u]

i do support ! trust me -i know what u mean! Me : WHat version of windows you have Them: Oh, i have office 95 i mean 98! Me: Okay, have u been to windows update? them: Windows what? Me: how long have u had this system' Them: oh, about 4 years. Me: what ISP conneciton / provider u got Them: i don't know what is an ISP? - i am just connected. Never been to windows update in 4 years! this is a regular thing for me to hear! Is scary the education level of these people, and these are people who put all their credit info into that new app that had a flashing banner on that web site and said it was secure! like faq - people who do not have a basic understanding of computers should not be allowed to have one! PERIOD!

latest game update?

Quote: Honestly I think WinME is better than 98 and 98 better than 95, especially when using a VIA chipset. do i slap u now or later..LOL the only reason MS came out with ME was cause 2k had come out and 98SE was the last thing out for home users so alot of home users got upset, so all they did was take 98SE - add the 2k interface and some new options and sold it as the new home o/s. ME was not an O/S - ME was nothing more then a badly patched up 98SE.

yeah m8 - it sure as heck isn't nt comptible, been coming here for a while and never had that pop up. may want to get an ad-ware scanner for your comp.

won't make a difference. any and all protection on titles today can be broken.

quake 3 requires skill? - yes, yes it does, but to me so does ut2003 if you want to be good - in iehtr game u can simply grab a gun and shot like amd - but i think alot of ut player could whip the ground with q3 players as they game play is FAr faster and requires you to react faster. quake 3 orignal game play was TOOOOOOOOOO slow for me, that is why i liked ut better, and ut2003 u can set the "game" speed" to a faster speed as it's defualt is about the same as q3 speeds. to each their own, but i prefer ut by far over q3.

Quote: I'm considering upgrading to a Geforce 4 Ti 4600 from my current video card, which is a first generation GeForce 3.....not a Ti200 or a Ti500. My question is, would I see a noticeable difference in speed?. I just bought a new game....RallySport Challenge by Microsoft and it appears that the video card is choking. I should have plenty enough processor speed to run this game very smoothly. I was just wondering what you guys think. Thx as for this - i have a g4 4600 ultra and got ms ralli and i crank it @ 1600 x 1200 x32 res and no probs! got to lvoe it. although i would wait until the G FX comes out and the 4600 prices will drop probably by about $200 or so. have you considered ATI? i have both the 9700 pro ATi and a g4 4600 ultra and of course the ATi whip's a**..lol - that is until the FX comes out.

yepeprs , grabbed one of their 120g 8mb drives back in Jan for an ftp - runs like a ferrari!

uncle had the same issue with his HP scanner was scsi or USB, with scsi it would be there one second, then not there the next! just went with usb in the end.

i don't trust HP for some reason! go with pioneer - since they practically invented the thing!!! and they now have the 4x version out - 4.7g in 15 mins!

uupdates all drivers the game , tried running in compatibility mode? your system specs would help.

bad memory stick? get any updates they have for warcraft 3?

why would you run it in 95 comaptiblity mode if it works fine under xp?

try installing AVI codecs? i put it in (the game) and ran fine - but i also watch AVi movies and so i have a few diff types of video codecs in my system.

i will try to find that review - it didn't sya much really, and i found it on one of my reading days so got a few sites to go through to find it

not very many good one exist - most all file sharing apps that i have sene and sucha nd tried out the stuff u can get is pure crap anyways. u got to find a way to the source

yeah - i could see it becoming annoying if u alwayy have to "move" to an area on your dekstop simply to get access to something. it looks good and all, but the 2d style is MUCH more effiecient and / or switching to multiple desktops.

Quote: Quote: What a retard....My ti4400 Leadteak runs 310/670 with stock HSF.Ti4400 ..... CORE GPU CLOCKSPEED (APK - Elvis) -> 330 - 310 = 20 MEMORY CLOCKSPEED (APK - Elvis) -> 730 - 670 = 60 It seems some people think that the lower your clock speed the better. What is the education system coming to...lol

i must say i find it sad when people stoop to the lowest level and personally insult people in a post.

don't use kazza?..lol

Quote: I would wait until nVidia releases some DX9 optimized drivers. But you don't need to have a dx9 gfx card to use dx9, it's just that things will be done in software. yes - but u also need a card that can process the directx 9 extra code and features that are not in direct x 8.* - henece why a big thing about new cards is what version of direct x they can handle - if it was all in software then the 9700 pro they would not make a big deal that it can handle direct x 9.

try a bios update?

purchased or downloaded? get the latest updates for the game? try diff. resolutions?

_vti_cnf _vti_pvt _vti** there are ALOT of them,..lol get ride of FP and server extrensions and use dreamweaver and apache.