Minotaur

did you try using 3082 drivers? i have the same graphics card and been using 30.82 (and no other Leadtek stuff) and UT2003 is fine. got a diff system though kt3 ultra XP1800 pc2700 audigy winxp sp1 leadtek ti4200 64mb

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some more. drivers i am using: via 4in1: whatever windows supplied and sp1 supplied graphics: 30.82 (didn't touch the leadtek cd) audi0: creative drivers off the AUDIGY CD my install proceedure: have only AGP NIC in TAKEout the sound card. insert xp cd format and install (i went fat32 this time) wait wait wait wait input your network stuff as asked activate later get to desktop copy over winzip8 (prev burned) adobe (prev burned) (previously burned sp1) 30.82 drivers (prev burned) install the sp1 first do winzp and adobe install the 30.82 next then get to your internet and get it going activate winxp when all is running fine power down (make a restore point here if you want) plop in the AUDIGY make sure it is in an open irq slot, or non sharing pci slot. reboot login as admin (do tha for every time you are installing sheet) windows will attempt to do a whole whack of things. (task bar corner goes nuts telling you it found a whole bunch of stuff) just let it do its thing HIT CANCEL TWICE TO FOUND NEW HARDWARE WIZARD. (it should do it twice maaaaaaaybe 3 times just wait for a while and do nothing but cancel the windows) after you wait, and it looks like win has stopped messing around, put the AUDIGY cd into the cdrom and install away. reboot as asked. (you can leave the cd in) and you are done enjoy the creative labs propaganda. if you have problems here on in, once you reboot try making some bios changes to help with the problems this is with a fresh install and not using the GAMEPORT BRACKET that comes with the audigy since hardly any game controllers work in xp anyways that are not usb type. this is just a basic guidline.... note, i am not using any part or whole of the 4in1 drivers, only what winxp gave me. i have been stress testing the pc and have found that: SANDRA puts my stuff at a normal range of benchmoark scores. even HD score is now 22000 (ata100 7200rpm hd 15gb) 3dmark2001se gives me 9400 (well within normal specs) no crashes in games. or 3d apps like ssavers. ut2003 benchmark: DM ANTILUS gives me 20/36/75 av=36fps at 1024x768xshq settings (2003 benchmark scores are a little low for what i was expecting, however 2001se gave me normal scores, so i will leave it at that) i have not applied any REFRESH FIXES YET EITHER..... since i am at 60hz still. and monitor is set to 75hz always. no lockups or bsod. this is a VIA pc ;(

MSI KT3 ULTRA PC2700 WinXP SP1 xp1800+ AUDIGY (drivers off the supplied cd) LEADTEK GF4TI4200 30.82 stable as can be. with NO added via drivers. just what xp installed. gaming is fun, no bsod no lockups i rely on this pc, and if it wasn't working reliably i would be all over the place screaming bloddy murder..... people that "hear" that via and windows don't get along, then perhaps they should get some hands on experience to finally put their tepidations to rest.

well... yup, pulled the audigy from the pc and rebooted with no problems. hmmmm wonderfull job CREATIVE LABS. great work on you drivers.... ;( obviously if all is peachy when i pull the card, then it was the creative audigy driver kit upgradewhich fubar'd the pc somehow. now i got no sound....

well, all was working fine. realllllly fine. but UT2003 asked me to download a audigy driver to fix some stuttering in game with EAX being used. so i head over to creative.com and try to find the AUDIGY driver which matched my card. i downloaded the file. ~12mb .exe and extracted it and installed it, it removed a whole whack of files, and told me to reboot. so i did. BSOD forever when it tried to reboot. so i F8 and i get DETECTED NEW HARDWARE PCI DEVICE i hit cancel to it and look in device manager and there are a whole wack of yellow ? hmmmmm..... and of course i proceed to go with found new hardware. and as usual it craps out and says it cant find anything. so i go and try to run the .exe again in safemode. (no creative device found exiting installation) was the answere. so i then UNINSTALL all the creative labs stuff and don't need to remove it from DM since it aint there anymore and try to reboot normally with my audigy cd in hand to go the (as if installing from scratch route) and i still get the same BSOD error some EMXXX error (i am assuming it is still creative since that is a EMULK chip... so i then F8 and try that LAST KNOWN GOOD BOOT option. and get BSOD again. so i boot with win2k cd in and try REPAIR option, and reboot and BSOD again. hmmmmm..... so that is where i left it at. ..... frustrated and didn't want to rupture a blood vessel..... any thoughts or tips..... later i will try and completely pull the audigy from the pci socket and see where that goes....

hmmm. i had a v3 and office2k and win2k. they all got along fine. that pc was used for word and excel so i would have known if anything was buggerd . if i remember i had only sp2 and no updates for office2k and only had word and excel installed, not outlook or pp i was using the last offficial dx8 win2k drivers for the v3 too. i then updated to XP and had to go hojur(or whatever his name was) voodoo drivers for xp as eventhough 2d was ok, gaming sucked in xp after the update. when i went to the modifed drivers they brought back 3dfxtools and could get some half decent gaming out of the v3. but that also did not confilct with office2k either (in xp) i would be very surpised if the v3 drivers buggered it for you. reason why i kew it worked is that was my wifes pc. and she is litteraly pc illeterate. and would have screamed bloddy murder if it was even the slightest broken. she never complained.

so was the bx, i am using bx, i815 i815(tulanian) and either will work with win2k like a dream, but i spend a lot of time with the via as well too, apollo pro (intel) and kt133 kt333now and thoes need babying on a fresh install of win2k. xp is different, i have the old p3v4x with xp and i did jack squat for additional install (still using the via drivers that xp installed) and apart from updateing the geforce drivers i havnt had to touch the xp system. and it runs like a dream.

ya, you are soooo right, it is a pain in the arse. i have always found that installing with as min a possible, and then adding in stages, was the least way for problems, so the system worked for me so i always stayed with it.

i am running a gf1ddr with 2832 and my display properties tab are correct as when i was with 2311 (winXP) (now i am gonna go home tonight and check for sure) but i would have noticed if it was as you described.

ya, i put sp3 on FIRST before installing the audio stuff. i alway build the pc with the bare essentials, AGP NIC only, THEN when i am the desktop for the first time i run 4IN1 then SPx then i do the AGP card drivers. when all is working, i THEN power down and add the SOUND card and install the driversfor that. THIS is where the system broke down. it wouldnt install EITHER of the sound card devices with SP3 i did nothing extra, in methodology, i reformated and iserted sp2 instead of sp3, no problems. and YES you can AFTERWARDS deploy SP3, i have done that and have had no problems, it was only on a fresh install with sp3. has anybody else run into this? that is my main question.

it was an AUDIGY and the otehr was AC97 (5.1) which came with the MSI KT3 ULTRA onboard. neither would work. the software would install fine, but it wouldnt install the device. every reboot, it would try and install (found new hardware) and say there was a problem and get me to the desktop. like i said all software was there, just the yellow ? in device manager. the audigy was same deal. i would put the audigy cd in and perform the tasks, and it would appear to install everything, then it asks to reboot, and i do and then it does the same thing, THEN the AUDIGY stuff launches, all the propaganda stuff after an initial install and there was no sound. i nuked the win2k and went SP2 instead. all was fine ??!!

Hey, fresh install of win2k go right to SP3 (skip2) dont have sound card in the pc yet, get everything up and running first then after that power off and install the soundcard (or enable it in bios) reboot and: try and install any sound card. is it just me?

i installed it a few days ago from my windows update from start menue, it took a long time installing the SP3, but it went ok, and there where no problems to date on this pc. A7V133 XP1800+ 256PC133 GF4TI4200 AUDIGY things are working ok so far (knocks wood).

n-mind i did disable onbaord sound and pulled the nic, it finished the install and am at my desktop, first thing i did on the fresh install was INSTALL VIA 4IN1 4.27A kit (the one just released the other day) rebooted then installed SP2 it hardlocked on the sp2 install i rebooted again and restarted the sp2 install and it completed. so far so good.....