DosFreak 2 Posted October 8, 2001 Arrrggghh! They are unmanageable and I don't even manage 'em! I bet they are a pain on your end Phillip but on this end too they are a mess! 1. A NT4/NT5/NT51 user only cares about their respective operating systems. Mingling all three OS'S together on the same screen is a terrible mess! 2. Reduce the font size. There is no reason that the name of the game should take up all the screen. 3. We need a comments button for each game. Too many people have too many systems that that can break a game. If said person posts to the board and lists it not working it shows up red on your list when it works PERFECTLY fine. It's happened many times before and will happen many times again. 4. We need to list the OS's that these games are supported in! 5. A downloadable version of the list. Either zipped in .html (easiest) or .txt. 6. needs to be sortable by OS/Manufacturer/working/not working. Share this post Link to post
Xiven 0 Posted October 8, 2001 Couldn't agree more! Quite a bit of work though. Share this post Link to post
JP- 0 Posted October 8, 2001 Couldnt agree more, and having it in alphabetical order couldnt hurt atm its kinda semi-alphabetical with stuff just seemingly placed wherever Share this post Link to post
Philipp 6 Posted October 8, 2001 Its on my do list. I move the entire compatiblity list in near future (maybe later this month) to a MySQL database. Share this post Link to post
CrazyKillerMan 0 Posted October 9, 2001 nice MySQL works very well with php (I'm sure you know) and sorting using the database is lickity split. Share this post Link to post
clutch 1 Posted October 9, 2001 What is the backend for the message board? Is it MySQL? I use ASP and SQL/Access myself, but I wondered what was powering this system. Share this post Link to post
FatFish 0 Posted October 9, 2001 I know PHP works with MySQL in Linux, but can PHP works with MS SQL? because i know PHP can be running on IIS now. I hope htis is not a dumb question. Share this post Link to post
Xiven 0 Posted October 9, 2001 Yes, PHP works just fine with MS SQL, so if you're annoyed with ASPs obvious deficiencies (lack of proper error handling etc) then PHP is a very good alternative. Share this post Link to post
Philipp 6 Posted October 9, 2001 Quote: What is the backend for the message board? Is it MySQL? It's PHP with MySQL Quote: I know PHP works with MySQL in Linux, but can PHP works with MS SQL? PHP support MS SQL Server, MySQL, PostgresSQL, Oracle, Sybase etc. There is also a MySQL for Windows Share this post Link to post
clutch 1 Posted October 9, 2001 Quote: Yes, PHP works just fine with MS SQL, so if you're annoyed with ASPs obvious deficiencies (lack of proper error handling etc) then PHP is a very good alternative. I really would like to try PHP, but as I am barely capable of doing anything in ASP, I think I will confine my "mad skillz" to that language for the time being. ASP.NET seems to be a lot better, but I have been intrigued by PHP and how well it seems to scale well on larger sites. I also installed MySQL on an NT box of mine, but I haven't messed with it yet. I use MS SQL2K for SMS, McAfee ePolicy Orchestrator, IIS Logging, and several ASP sites so I haven't had much inclination to use MySQL at the moment. Share this post Link to post
Atreyu 0 Posted October 10, 2001 Check out XML before PHP. I'm no guru yet, but from what I read, it has a very bright future. Also it works very well with ASP, which in turn works VERY well with COM. Does PHP have these abilities? Prolly not, since it's a Unix/Linux thing. Just my input. Share this post Link to post
FatFish 0 Posted October 10, 2001 I think php is mutiplatforms... but i could be wrong. Share this post Link to post
Atreyu 0 Posted October 10, 2001 Eh, so could I. ...Just a bit of info I picked up along the way. I remember hearing or reading somewhere that "PHP is the UNIX/LINUX equivalent to ASP".... or something to that effect. This is why I've never bothered to learn it. If I'm wrong, please correct me! Thanx Share this post Link to post
CrazyKillerMan 0 Posted October 10, 2001 I am pretty sure php is *nix. I could also be wrong, but I am assuming. To clutch... I worked with php/mysql/html all summer and its a great language. It is relativly easy to learn, and if you have past exp in c/c++ php will come as second nature. I found it to be pretty powerful as a language mostly just from its connectivity with tons of differing applications. You can wap enable php quite easily, and communicating with any database is super easy. I really also like the fact that its server side, so the source only shows of what needs to be shown. As for myself, I have never tried asp, but looks farily well thought of. I really hope to get into xml, but this semster I am bombarded with c/c++, and from what I glanced over at devshed, i am assuming xml is fairly in depth. Share this post Link to post
Xiven 0 Posted October 10, 2001 PHP originally started on Unix/Apache systems but there is now a PHP for IIS and for Win32/Apache. Oh and XML is a very different thing from ASP/PHP and certainly won't replace them. Share this post Link to post
Atreyu 0 Posted October 10, 2001 It may not replace them, but it works wonderfully with ASP. Also, XML's data and formatting layer are completely separate (hope I said that correctly). ONe major advantage of XML tho is the ability a programmer has to customize basically ANYTHING. Make up his/her own language to do whatever they need to be done. For example, let's say in ASP (vbscript) if you needed a button to execute a given function and there was no "onclick" event, you could invent your own "onclick" event. Share this post Link to post
Xiven 0 Posted October 10, 2001 Sorry to be picky, but XML is the data layer. The formatting layer is written in XSLT (eXtensible Style Language Transformations). I'm not denying that XML is useful, it is, but you won't write a worldwide online ordering system using just XML. That's not what it's designed for - it's just a very good way of representing data. Share this post Link to post
Atreyu 0 Posted October 10, 2001 Cool that clears it up a bit for me. Yeah I realized that alone it's not a cure-all, that's why it's used extensively with ASP. And XSL... oh yeah..... forgot about that :-). Thanx Xiven. Share this post Link to post
Philipp 6 Posted October 10, 2001 Quote: It may not replace them, but it works wonderfully with ASP and PHP http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.xml.php Share this post Link to post
clutch 1 Posted October 10, 2001 Learning XML isn't hard, trying to make it do something useful is. Share this post Link to post
Xiven 0 Posted October 10, 2001 For more info on XML look at: http://www.xml.com http://www.w3.org/XML/ Share this post Link to post
Atreyu 0 Posted October 10, 2001 Yes, but at least it's a fruitful discussion. Nobody is ranting or flaming, which is why I like NTCompatible so much. Good info is being exchanged in a very civil way. Nothing wrong with going off topic if you ask me; as long as the conversation is still resulting in the exchange of useful knowledge. Share this post Link to post