Fastest AMD or VIA Socket 7 CPU that's only 100MHZ FSB?

[Christianb 8]

Hi I'm trying to find out what kind of a system my friend can upgrade to. I'm sure he can upgrade his Cyrix PR275 to a PR433, however I think AMD might make a faster solution since Cyrix sucks and went out of business. Yes I do know that VIA purchased their assets. Also I should mention that his computer is a Compaq Preario 2266, don't laugh. I know that Compaqs aren't exactly known for being the most upgradeable by my friend is kinda broke so we gotta do the best we can.

Thanks for any and all help regarding this matter,

Christian Blackburn

[Christianb 8]

Code:

SiSoftware Sandra


Entire System

Manufacturer : Compaq

Model : Presario

Version : 82h

Serial Number : 3D8ACDQ9K09B

Unique ID : 00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000


System Chassis

Manufacturer : Compaq

Can be locked : No

Version : DSE2

Serial Number : None

Asset Tag Number : No Asset Tag

Boot-up State : Safe

Power State : Safe

Thermal State : Safe

Security State : External Interface Locked-out


System Mainboard

Manufacturer : Compaq

MP Support : No

Model : 04D0h

Version : X1.0

Serial Number : XX00000000


Memory Controller

Error Detection Method : None

Error Correction Capability : None

Supported/Current Memory Interleave : 1-way / 1-way

Number of Memory Slots : 2

Maximum Installable Memory : 512MB

Maximum Module Size : 256MB

Supported Memory Types : DIMM

Supported Memory Voltages : 3.3V


Physical/BIOS Memory Banks

Phoenix Technologies Ltd. (RASL-0 RASL-2) : 65536MB FPM Parity ECC SIMM DIMM BEDO double-bank

Compaq : Empty


System Chipset

Model : Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) SiS5597 CPU to PCI Bridge

Bus(es) : ISA PCI USB 

L2 External Cache : 512kB pipeline-burst write-back

Front Side Bus Speed : 1x 75MHz (75MHz data rate)

Max FSB Speed / Max Memory Speed : 1x 100MHz / 1x 100MHz


Logical/Chipset Memory Banks

Bank 0 Setting : 64MB SDRAM 8-1-1-1R 6-2-2-2W 3-4-4CL

Power Down Mode : No

Fixed Hole Present : No


PCI Bus(es)

Version : 2.10

PCI Bus 0 : 32-bit PCI (38MHz)

Multiplier : 1/2x


LPC Hub Controller 1

Model : Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) SiS85C503/5513 PCI to ISA Bridge (LPC Bridge)

ACPI PM Enabled : Yes

Random Number Generator Enabled : No

Speed Multiplier : 1/4x

Speed : 10MHz


USB Controller 1

Model : Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) SiS5597/8 Universal Serial Bus Controller

Version : 1.00

OHCI Interface : Yes

Channels : 2

Legacy Emulation Enabled : No


Expansion Slot(s)

ISA Slot ISA1 : ISA 16-bit 5V HalfLength

PCI Slot PCI1 : PCI 32-bit 5V 3.3V FullLength Available

PCI Slot PCI2 : PCI 32-bit 5V 3.3V FullLength InUse


Port Connector(s)

J23 - COM 1 : Serial Port 16550A Compatible - 9 Pin Dual Inline / DB-9 pin male

J3 - Parallel : Parallel Port ECP/EPP - 25 Pin Dual Inline / DB25 pin female

J9 - Keyboard : Keyboard Port - None / Circular DIN-8 male

J9 - PS/2 Mouse : Keyboard Port - None / Circular DIN-8 male


Performance Tips

Notice N224 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate.

Tip T2505 : System does not support memory error detection. Some memory errors may go unnoticed.

Warning W2507 : Mainboard has too few memory slots. Upgrading the memory may be difficult or expensive.

Tip T2511 : Some memory slots are free so the memory can be easily upgraded.

Warning W2520 : PCI bus speed is too high. Reduce FSB speed or FSB/PCI multiplier.

Tip T2536 : System has no SMBus/i2c/BMB bus support.

Tip T2 : For more information about tips, press F1 and scroll to the Tips section.


SiSoftware Sandra


System BIOS

Manufacturer : Phoenix Technologies Ltd.

Version : F0A0

Date : 09/08/98

Plug & Play Version : 1.00

SMBIOS/DMI Version : 2.10

ID No. : FC 01 00

(EE)PROM Size : 256kB  (2Mbit)


General Capabilities

Can be Updated/Flashed : Yes

Can be Shadowed : Yes

Is Socketed : No

Supports Plug & Play : Yes

Supports ESCD : Yes

Supports Enhanced Disk Drive : No

NEC PC-98 Spec Compatible : No


Power Management Capabilities

Supports APM : Yes

Supports ACPI : Yes

Supports Smart Battery : No


Boot Capabilities

Supports Selective Booting : Yes

Supports CD/DVD Boot : Yes

Supports PCMCIA/CardBus Boot : No

Supports LS-120 Boot : No

Supports ZIP Boot : Yes

Supports i2o Boot : No

Supports FireWire/1394 Boot : No


Performance Tips

Tip T201 : System BIOS is old. Check for an update.

Notice N224 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate.

Tip T207 : A SMBIOS/DMI 2.3 or later compliant BIOS is recommended. Check for a BIOS update.

Tip T212 : BIOS can be shadowed so check whether it is.

Warning W214 : BIOS is flash-able but surface-mounted. An unsuccessful flash may be fatal.

Warning W208 : BIOS does not support the EDD (Enhanced Disk Drive) specification. Check for an update.

Tip T2 : For more information about tips, press F1 and scroll to the Tips section.


SiSoftware Sandra


Processor(s)

Model : VIA/Cyrix 6x86MII

Co-Processor (FPU) : Built-in

Speed : 225MHz

Performance Rating : PR275 (estimated)

Type : Standard

Multiplier : 3x

Generation : 6th (6x86)

Model Information : 6x86MII (M2) PR300-450 2.2/2.9V

Revision/Stepping : 0 / 0 (0 / 8 Cx)


Caches

Internal Unified Cache : 64kB synchronous write-back


Host Interface

Front Side Bus Speed : 1x 75MHz (75MHz data rate)


Mainboard Upgradeability

Socket/Slot : U24

Upgrade Interface : ZIF Socket

Supported Speed(s) : 333MHz  (or more)

Supported Voltage(s) : 2.2V


Features

Co-Processor (FPU) Built-in : Yes

Virtual Mode Extensions : No

Debugging Extension : Yes

Page Size Extension : No

Time Stamp Counter : Yes

Model Specific Registers : Yes

Physical Address Extension : No

Machine Check Exception : No

Compare & Exchange Instruction : Yes

Local APIC Built-in : No

Fast System Call : No

Memory Type Range Registers : No

Page Global Enable : Yes

Machine Check Architecture : No

Conditional Move Instruction : Yes

Page Attribute Table : No

36-bit Page Size Extension : No

Unique Serial Number : No

Cache Line Flush Support : No

Debug Trace & EMON Store : No

ACPI Technology : No

MMX Technology : Yes

Fast Float Save & Restore : No

SSE Technology : No

SSE2 Technology : No

Self Snoop : No

Hyper-Threading Technology : No

Auto Clock Control : No

IA-64 Technology : No

DAZ Support : No


Advanced Settings


Performance Tips

Warning W2501 : Lack of L2 cache greatly reduces performance. Install some.

Tip T210 : Mainboard supports faster CPUs, so the CPU can be upgraded when needed.

Notice N224 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate.

Tip T219 : A SSE(2) processor is recommended for modern multimedia applications and games.

Tip T2 : For more information about tips, press F1 and scroll to the Tips section.


SiSoftware Sandra


Computer System

Manufacturer : Compaq

Name : COMPAQ COMPUTER

User Name : Don Larson


Processor(s)

Model : VIA/Cyrix 6x86MII

Speed : 225MHz

Performance Rating : PR275 (estimated)


Mainboard and BIOS

Bus(es) : ISA PCI USB 

MP Support : No

System BIOS : Phoenix Technologies Ltd. F0A0

Mainboard : Compaq 04D0h

System Chipset : Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) SiS5597 CPU to PCI Bridge

L2 External Cache : 512kB pipeline-burst write-back

Front Side Bus Speed : 1x 75MHz (75MHz data rate)

Installed Memory : 60MB SDRAM


Video System

Monitor/Panel : MultiSync 50

Adapter : SiS 5597/5598


Physical Storage Devices

Disk Drive : GENERIC IDE  DISK TYPE01

Disk Drive : GENERIC NEC  FLOPPY DISK

CD-ROM/DVD : LITEON CD-ROM LTN301   


Logical Storage Devices

1.44MB 3.5" (A:) : 1MB (0MB, 19% Free) (FAT)

Hard Disk (C:) : 4.0GB (2.9GB, 72% Free) (FAT32)

CD-ROM/DVD (D:) : N/A


Peripherals

Serial/Parallel Port(s) : 2 COM / 1 LPT

USB Controller/Hub : SiS 7001 PCI to USB Open Host Controller

USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub

Keyboard : Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard

Mouse : PS/2 Compatible Mouse Port


MultiMedia Device(s)

Device : ES1869 Plug and Play AudioDrive

Device : ES1869 Control Interface

Device : Gameport Joystick


Communication Device(s)

Device : Rockwell HCF 56K Data Fax PCI Modem


Printers and Faxes

Model : Canon Bubble-Jet BJ-200e

Model : Rendering Subsystem

Model : Microsoft Fax

Model : RingCentral Fax


Operating System(s)

Windows System : Microsoft Windows 98 Ver 4.10.1998   

DOS Sub-System : Microsoft MS-DOS Ver 7.10 A


Network Adapter(s)

Networking Installed : No

Adapter : Dial-Up Adapter

[jimf43 0]

Quote:

Hi I'm trying to find out what kind of a system my friend can upgrade to. I'm sure he can upgrade his Cyrix PR275 to a PR433, however I think AMD might make a faster solution since Cyrix sucks and went out of business. Yes I do know that VIA purchased their assets. Also I should mention that his computer is a Compaq Preario 2266, don't laugh. I know that Compaqs aren't exactly known for being the most upgradeable by my friend is kinda broke so we gotta do the best we can.
Thanks for any and all help regarding this matter,
Christian Blackburn

I may be mistaken, but I think that the AMD K6+ could be had at 550mhz. Try ebay... these aren't real expensive now:
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll...mp;BasicSearch=

Also think about maxing out the memory.

[mezron 0]

Are you sure he can upgrade to a PR433? just looking around the net on this chipset (sis5597) it looks like it only supports up to 75Mhz bus (83 unofficially). Your friend might be maxed or close to it unfortunately.

 

Couple places I've looked...

http://www17.tomshardware.com/mainboard/19970101-1/chipset-13.html

http://wmheg.physics.wm.edu/~norman/cpu_info/chipsets.html

http://www.hwupgrade.com/chipset/sis5597.html

[jimf43 0]

Quote:

Are you sure he can upgrade to a PR433? just looking around the net on this chipset (sis5597) it looks like it only supports up to 75Mhz bus (83 unofficially). Your friend might be maxed or close to it unfortunately.

I don't think he can do anything except add memory. You're right, this is probably a lose lose

[mezron 0]

According to AMD a 366Mhz k6-2 would work assuming your motherboard will support a 5.5 fsb multiplier

 

http://139.95.253.213/SRVS/CGI-BIN/WEBCG...=2,Case=obj(79)

[mezron 0]

whoops... got ahead of myself there. Looks like you can only do a K6 not a K6-2 the bus stops at 300Mhz if thats the case

[CyberGenX 0]

If that board supports 2.2V and 5.5x100MHz Clock then you can go AMD K6-2 550MHz.

[CheekyMonkey 0]

I got a K6-2 500 I don't need any more.

[Christianb 8]

Hi Guys,

I want to thank everyone for replying. I really appreciate it even if the news sucks for my friend. You see he bought Dragon Natural Speaking 8 and I guess it requires a 400MHZ CPU and he has a 225MHZ Cyrix. I'm sure he would gladly accept and or purchase your CPU if it were 75MHZ FSB, but I think your 550 is 100MHZ bus which won't work, but thanks for the offer.

Alec that was really nice of you to part with your system at a value price. I assume you sold the Voodoo card? That's probably a great glide card. Admitedly I haven't tried any of the emulators yet. I still have one of my Voodoo 2's in my closet just in case (I gave the other [used to have SLI] to my nephews and nieces). Did you play any good glide games back in the day? I used to buy a new video card about once a year and would always buy a good one that game with an excellent game bundle. People were always so stupid and would pay up for faster RAM in their cards that would yield a 2-5 percent increase in performance and cost 20-40% extra . I on the other hand would buy based on what a particular video card came bundled with. I mean if you're going to buy a reference design from 3DFX or NVidia it really doesn't make that big of a difference who manufactured it. Although, I'm sure some companies did a better job than others. I think I bought a Hercules Voodoo Rush (the first one that really sucked , Monster 3d (I complained and traded my Rush 3DFX chip in for the card), 2 Creative Labs Voodoo2's, a Matrox Millenium G200 for video only (I kept the SLI setup for games), and currently I have a GeForce 2 MX, and don't really play games anymore. I find programming to be more intriguing. Although maybe twice a month I play a game for about 30 minutes, but that's it. I'm glad I've conquered that addiction .

Adios Amigos and Thanks Again,

Christian

[Christianb 8]

Hi Alec,

Yes programming is the bomb. It's a hoot being able to have control over aspect of system and or application behavior. You're absolutely right I suppose the biggest test of a "good" program from a programmer's standpoint is would they themselves use it and more so would they choose to use their application over the competition?

So long Amigo,

Christian

[Christianb 8]

Also I know I downloaded and tried your 3DFX tuner a long time ago. I think I opted to manage my settings in the autoexec.bat manually though. Was your application shareware or freeware? Your 1-2 percent metric doesn't really suprise me. The biggest reason for that in my opinion is simply that it's just to easy to pirate software and or find freeware alternatives.

So Long,

Christian