ARGGGGGHHHH ! WIN2K IS OUT => NEWBIE CRISES

[Awaxx 0]

What a lovely forum we had, just before this blac day : February 17th.

Only a few and very interesting question a day and only a few stupid "you should try the search buton" ones a week. A now, it's newbie crisis and I have nothing to read and not even a question to answer !!!!!

 

Everybody says here :

1 - I have this box, do you think I could run Win2k ?

2 - I have this prob, did anyone have the same ?

3 - How can I do that ?

 

I think nearly 70% of questions can be answerred via SEARCH, 20% don't even need to be asked, only 10% would be hard to find a solution.

 

PLez everybody, try to limit question cos it takes HOURS to read all of them, and when I see o much question, I don't even try to answer them. I think it's the same for all people that have been here for more than 2 weeks (people that can give answers).

 

TRY THE SEARCH BUTTON

 

Awx

[m00se 0]

Haven't you noticed that this is a trend that is happening in the entire IS world. The people that know the answers are always being asked repeatedly by the ones that don't for the answers. They would rather just ask than look it up for themselves. The ability to look up the answers is why we (and yes, I'll include myself in there) are the ones that can answer the questions. Tis a shame.

 

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Originally posted by Awaxx:

What a lovely forum we had, just before this blac day : February 17th.

Only a few and very interesting question a day and only a few stupid "you should try the search buton" ones a week. A now, it's newbie crisis and I have nothing to read and not even a question to answer !!!!!

 

Everybody says here :

1 - I have this box, do you think I could run Win2k ?

2 - I have this prob, did anyone have the same ?

3 - How can I do that ?

 

I think nearly 70% of questions can be answerred via SEARCH, 20% don't even need to be asked, only 10% would be hard to find a solution.

 

PLez everybody, try to limit question cos it takes HOURS to read all of them, and when I see o much question, I don't even try to answer them. I think it's the same for all people that have been here for more than 2 weeks (people that can give answers).

 

TRY THE SEARCH BUTTON

 

Awx

[Feral 0]

I have one thing to say.. maybe more.. But why is it that we IT people get upset when some non-IT peeps asks us a question?

 

Ok the search is a useful function and sometimes it works.. (more than not) Would it be more constructive to either answer the question then show them how to look it up for the next time they have a question? That seems to speak volumes in the knowlege that you present.

 

I think the "newbies" would learn more if we actualy "taught" them than if we are flaming them!

 

Makes sense to me. I could be wrong though. **evil grin. But hey, are we always right?? No!

 

So my point is this... Stop posting about the Newbie CRISIS and actualy help them find what they are looking for.. And with a little Tact they may learn something.

 

And by the way.. I love it when I can share my knowlege... To see the looks on "newbies" faces when I tell em' something they dont know.. LOL wow...... A million bucks does'nt feel as good.. (for stress point only)

 

 

Thanks for listening.. And this is not a slam..

 

 

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When the world comes to a halt, Hold The F*** ON!!!

[YuppieScum 0]

Fair point...

 

I too enjoy sharing the wealth of my knowledge and the fruit of my extensive wisdom, but...

 

Answering the exact same question more than 3 times in 3 weeks becomes very old very quickly...

 

I have the extraordinary volume of knowledge that I do not because I ask other people every time I have a question, but because I find out for myself. Enquiry of others is but the last resort.

 

This is the general problem with some "newbies" - the need to be spoon-fed answers. And this pisses me off.

 

I'll happily help out where someone has tried and failed for themselves, but when I'm the first port of call instead of the last..?

 

 

 

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SuperMicro P6DBS (dual UW-SCSI) BIOS 2.2, 2*Celery 300a @ 450Mhz, 384MB PC100 RAM

SCSI-A=4.3Gb+9Gb, SCSI-B=Tosh32x CD-ROM, Yamaha4416 CD-RW, Iomega ZIP100, IDE1=4.3Gb

IBM EtherJet 10/100 NIC PCI + Nortel ADSL "modem"

Matrox G400 DH 32Mb AGP + Quantum3D Voodoo2 SLI PCI (CL TNT1 AGP on a shelf)

SoundBlaster Live PCI (not Value)

Win2K build 2195 Retail (not 120-day eval)

[Awaxx 0]

I TOTALLY agre with YuppieScum. I mean : I DO answers question (already more than 100 post, should be around 70 answers and what about YuppiScum :more than 400 (!) posts).

I try by myself, and then I ask another one. If you never try, you'll always have to ask someone : when I teach something to my mother on computing, she writes EXACTLY what to do and have NO IMAGINATION to solve a other problem, even very close.

 

So when we see very low-level question, we think : "What this guy doing here ? he should first train on a easier OS, learn a few basics and then try a little bit harder".

 

Second, we REALLY see the sames questions coming back over again and again (as the TNT question). The first time we saw it, we try to solve the prob : I've already ****ed my full working Win2k try to solve someone else prob. After seing it again 10 times, we're getting crazy (sometimes, people don't even read 2 lines below). We've been here fow 2 or 3 months or even more. So MANY questions have been answered.

 

So plez, just TRY the search button, and useyour OWN brain.

 

Awx

 

[This message has been edited by Awaxx (edited 20 February 2000).]

[EM 0]

An observation:

 

Two hypothetical questions.

 

1. What TNT2 board supports SMP in Quake 3?

 

Search for TNT2 SMP Quake3 resulting in 373 seperate posts.

 

2. Any suggestions for installing Win2k with a Promise Fasttrak 66 IDE raid controller?

 

Search for Promise Fasttrak resulting in 13 seperate posts.

 

As this small example shows, the search feature is both useful and useless. Very useful for some questions but not very useful for others. I for one would not search through 373 posts to try and find my answer to Question 1 but I would look at 13 posts to try and find the answer to the second question.

 

Some suggestions for the search feature.

 

1. the ability to eliminate some posts (eg: Posts including the phrase NT so as not to have to read about SMP and Quake 3 in NT)

 

2. Don't have signatures included in the search. For example, many sigs include the hardware that the poster has in their machine. Their post may have been about Liveware but because they put in their sig that they have a TNT2 I have to search through all those posts to try and find my answer about quake3 and SMP with tnt2.

 

Ed

[Feral 0]

Gotta luv Ed... see thats the kind of here is how to search stuff i am talkin about...