Arin 0 Posted October 23, 2005 http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=45099 I ended up getting another 2 sticks of 512 mb corsair xms pc3200 2-2-2-5. I checked cpu z and it said that I'm running my ram at cpu/14 so its about 150mhz... it should be 200. I used an older version of cpu z and it reported it running correctly. So I ended up flashing my bios to the new version and now I'm a bit confused. the new version is still reporting the wrong frequency. I checked the bios and I dont see any way to change it. am I wrong here or is something messed up? Also with my processor, shouldnt my L1 cache be higher than 64 kbytes? whats up? Share this post Link to post
mctonale 0 Posted October 23, 2005 Not just you. after reading you post I decided to give it a try and it is calculating my RAM incorrectly. Share this post Link to post
Arin 0 Posted October 23, 2005 Really?. I have no idea how to check.... in my bios, I have no option to adjust the ram, only the HT. Share this post Link to post
Arin 0 Posted October 24, 2005 Is there any other way to verify the speed? Share this post Link to post
jmmijo 1 Posted October 24, 2005 @Arin, I can answer the L1 cache question for you, you have to add both the Trace and Data L1 cache's together to get the 128K total of L1 cache Look at AMD's website for more CPU comparisons. Also, I do notice that CPU-Z is reporting that you FSB is listed at 200MHz, this means it is running the RAM syncronously with the FSB, otherwise it would be reporting the FSB speed of only about 140MHz like you said. This could just be a reporting issue with CPU-z and really does not reflect what it really is running at. You could also try running benchmarks like 3D Mark which gives you system info like the speed of the memory and such Share this post Link to post
Arin 0 Posted October 24, 2005 Check this out though: RAM Size : 2048 MB RAM Freq : 157.9 MHz RAM Type : DDR-SDRAM Dual Channel RAM Ratio : CPU/14 <------- It should be CPU/11... Share this post Link to post
Arin 0 Posted October 25, 2005 Here is what 3dmark05 says: CPU 1/1 AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3500+ Manufacturer AMD Family AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3500+ Architecture 64-bit Internal Clock 2.2 GHz Internal Clock Maximum 3.2 GHz <--- ????????? External Clock 200.0 MHz Socket Designation Socket 939 Upgrade ZIF Socket HyperThreadingTechnology N/A Capabilities MMX, CMov, RDTSC, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE, SSE2, PAE, NX Version AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3500+ Caches Level 1 128 KB Level 2 512 KB -------------- Memory Array 1/1 Max Module Capacity 2 MB Location System Board Use System Supported Speeds Supported Types Supported Voltages Memory Slot 1/3 Installed Enabled Size 512 MB Form Factor DIMM Frequency 0.0 Hz <--- ????????? Slot A0 [bank0/1] Manufacturer None Type Details Enabled Size 512 MB Total Bit Width 64 b Data Bit Width 64 b Memory Slot 2/3 Installed Enabled Size 512 MB Form Factor DIMM Frequency 0.0 Hz <--- ????????? Slot A1 [bank2/3] Manufacturer None Type Details Enabled Size 512 MB Total Bit Width 64 b Data Bit Width 64 b Memory Slot 3/3 Installed Enabled Size 512 MB Form Factor DIMM Frequency 0.0 Hz <--- ????????? Slot A2 [bank4/5] Manufacturer None Type Details Enabled Size 512 MB Total Bit Width 64 b Data Bit Width 64 b It only shows information for 3 of my pieces of memory....???? It also gives incorrect motherboard info just like in cpu-z. Motherboard Info Supported Slot Types ISA, PCI, AGP Manufacturer Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. Model nForce This should be Nforce3 250 ultra Version x.x BIOS Vendor Award Software International, Inc. BIOS Version F3 This should be F11 BIOS Release Date 07/20/2005 BIOS Properties Plug and Play, Flash, AGP AGP Available Rate 0x00000000 Selected Rate 0x00000000 Aperture Size 0 B This should be 512 Sideband Addressing Fast Write Share this post Link to post
Arin 0 Posted October 25, 2005 Yeah so basically it doesnt show my memory clock.... and now come to think of it, in my bios I have a setting that allows me to limit what the max clock of the memory can be so it doesnt bump its self over that limit on accident. I have it set to 200mhz and If I remember correctly below it, grayed out so I cant change it, it said 166mhz. . When I was just running the 2 sticks, I was getting 200 in that spot. Soemthing has to be up, but I dont konw what. Share this post Link to post
jmmijo 1 Posted October 25, 2005 OK, you just solved it yourself, it was working fine with two sticks of memory and now with 4 sticks things are whacky. Well, remove the pair of new memory modules and retest and see if things go back to normal or not. My guess is that maybe one or both of the new sticks have a faulty SPD on it and of course this is being misread by the BIOS which in turn feeds the diagnotistic apps the info. Share this post Link to post
Arin 0 Posted October 25, 2005 Well, when I test the SPD on cpu-z it reads correctly... I'll have to try one stick at a time. Share this post Link to post
jmmijo 1 Posted October 25, 2005 Originally posted by Arin: Quote: Well, when I test the SPD on cpu-z it reads correctly... I'll have to try one stick at a time. Let us know what happens please as this one is kind of a strange issue to be sure Share this post Link to post
Arin 0 Posted October 25, 2005 Ok, I tested the ram. The system insists on running at 166mhz for the ram when I have 3 or 4 memory modules installed. If I have installed 1 or 2 it runs fine. WTF? The book never mentioned this... I guess I'll have to sell these fucking fast ass pieces of ram and get 2 1 gig chips. What a fucking joke.... Share this post Link to post
Arin 0 Posted October 25, 2005 If I got pc4000 ram, would that simply just run the HT at 200mhz but the ram at PC4000 with a cpu/ram devider? Share this post Link to post
jmmijo 1 Posted October 25, 2005 Originally posted by Arin: Quote: If I got pc4000 ram, would that simply just run the HT at 200mhz but the ram at PC4000 with a cpu/ram devider? Not necessarily, you should double-check with Gigabyte on this one. You do have the latest BIOS rev installed ?!? Also note that since this is an nForce 3 chipset, there maybe some things that are limited, i.e., 3 or 4 sticks of memory vs. 1 or 2 sticks of ram. I seem to recall that this was an issue before the nForce 4 chipset Share this post Link to post
Arin 0 Posted October 25, 2005 I looked around the net and found people all reporting this... apparently it can only run two sticks at that ddr400... above that it runs them at ddr333. I got a64 tweak and adjusting it to 200mhz is not possible. it just locks up. Share this post Link to post
jmmijo 1 Posted October 25, 2005 Originally posted by Arin: Quote: I looked around the net and found people all reporting this... apparently it can only run two sticks at that ddr400... above that it runs them at ddr333. I got a64 tweak and adjusting it to 200mhz is not possible. it just locks up. Well now we know what's up, I have a feeling this is a limitation with the chipset and not the motherboard itself. Share this post Link to post
Arin 0 Posted October 26, 2005 Well because of this, I am selling the ram. It's super super tight ram, at pc3200 2-2-2-5, but I cant use all of it. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...E%3AIT&rd=1 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...me=STRK:MESE:IT This stuff is over $200 shipped on newegg.com Share this post Link to post
jmmijo 1 Posted October 26, 2005 It's a bummer and I feel for you on this one Arin Interesting issue, I do wonder if the nForce 4 chipset has the same limitation or not as I just recently purchased an SLI gaming rig, hmmmm.... Share this post Link to post
