machina1 0 Posted February 11, 2001 Argh this is just totally screwed I recently bought an abit kt7-a mobo, the one with the hot point raid. Being as ive got an ibm 46gig telesto udma 100 i wacked it in the orange port, belonging to the hotpoint. In Windows 98 everythings mint, get a score in Sandra of 25,000 and HD Tach rekons my random read speed is 80mb (the highest it goes). However a quick boot up to win2k and everything goes to pot. Sandra score down to 13,000 (halved) random read time down to 26ish. Clearly Ultra DMA is not enabled properly somewhere along the line. Ive tried loads of stuff, a reg entry from tweak3d, some windows 'hotfix' which didnt do anything. I've tried downloading the latest hotpoint drivers (not very latest at all october 2000) and the scores stay the same. Anyone got any ideas? Help and i'll love ya forever Share this post Link to post
Rulle 0 Posted February 11, 2001 Well, this doesn't help you much, but I have exactly the same problem or even worse =( I did the same thing, bought a brand new Abit kt7a and a IBM 75GXP ATA-100 46 gig HDD, but I am even more screwed. I have a 800 Duron which gives me 10000 points in SiSoft Sandra 2001. That's even less than my seagate 20.4 gig/udma33, bh6 and celeron 566 combo in w2k. I have also tried that w2k hot fix, installed SP1 and that reg file from tweak3d. I have the latest VIA 4-in-1 drivers (4.28). My Toshiba M1212 DVD won't run in UDMA mode (actually it does but gives me blue screens every time I try to access the drive, pio mode works fine but slow) So does anyone have a solution for the slow drive and the damn blue screens ? Share this post Link to post
machina1 0 Posted February 11, 2001 Thats an identical hard drive to mine btw. And i was getting a LOT more on my old BH6 as well. As for the blue screens, I find my dvd doesnt like DMA mode either but it seems to work fine in PIO mode?? It is a 14x Pioneer though. Come on some one must be able to help us with our drives man, this sux Share this post Link to post
Rulle 0 Posted February 11, 2001 I've been hearing lots of complaints with the kt7a lately. What's really bugging me is that you by a brand new system only find out your previous setup kicks the hell out of it =( I wonder if it has something to do with IBM drives and W2k... I'd better get my good old 20.4 gig Seagate back and try if it works better. Share this post Link to post
Rulle 0 Posted February 13, 2001 Still haven't been able to fix the problem. I uninstalled the VIA busmaster drivers (Ran the 4-in-1 setup.exe and choose uninstall) and got the DVD-ROM working with UDMA enabled. I can't however say if the HDD works now with normal speed as Sandra stops responding in drive benchmark. W2k says that it's pio mode, but I think it works as fast as previously. (meaning half the speed it should) If someone has better results please let me know. Share this post Link to post
Rulle 0 Posted February 13, 2001 Jiiiihaaa !!! Just upgraded my bios to new wz version and all my problems with HDD and DVD-ROM disappeared. Sisoft Sandra 2001 Drive benchmark gives me now roughly 17000 points, which isn't a top score but certainly better than the previous below 10000. And no bluescreens with DVD =) My system Specs: Abit KT7A with Duron 700 Mhz CPU 256 MB Generic CAS 3 PC-133 RAM SB Live Player 5.1 H+ MPEG2 decoder card Realtek 10 Mb NIC Matrox G400 DH video card IBM 75GXP 46 GB HDD Toshiba M1212 DVD-ROM Share this post Link to post
machina1 0 Posted February 14, 2001 is WZ the beta bios, thats the one Im already using Share this post Link to post
machina1 0 Posted February 14, 2001 m8 u need to download a program called hd tach to tell you if your drives in what, you can tell by the performance data. look for a url later tell me if you cant find it. Share this post Link to post
Rulle 0 Posted February 14, 2001 I got the HD Tach 2.52 and here are the results: Read speed - maximum 39362.0kps minimum 9090kps average 28675kps random access time 13 ms I don't have any comparison whether those results are good or bad. And btw, my wz bios is final. Share this post Link to post
DosFreak 2 Posted February 14, 2001 Min & Avg look right....Your max score tho...Are you use any DMA/33 devices on that chain or a 33 cable? Share this post Link to post
ThC 129 0 Posted February 14, 2001 the thing is that unless your using the UDMA100 fix for win2k your not gonna get ATA-100 working. It might say it is but it will only run at ATA66 Share this post Link to post
machina1 0 Posted February 14, 2001 my scores read sped 28000 min 5000 max 33000 avg seek time 13ms windows 98 readspeed 78000 min much higher max much higher avg seek time also 3-4ms lower Share this post Link to post
Brian Frank 0 Posted February 14, 2001 So you guys get blue screens too? Well, my problem was kinda like that, Toshiba 12x DVD but it was something with this UdfReadr.SYS that didnt like it when i would put in another disk after playing a DVD, so blue screens come. I ended up finding out that file was touchy about stuff and just needed to be updated. ------------------ Whaazzzupppppppppp! Asus A7V Duron 600@680 384 MB SDRAM PC133@113MHz Samsung 48x CD-ROM Toshiba 12x DVD-ROM Zip CD650 USB 4/4/6 Zip 100 USB Maxtor 20.4 GB ATA100 Voodoo 4 4500 AGP Guillemot Maxi Sound Fortissimo SIIG 3 port 1394 PCI Adapter D-Link DFE-530 10/100 NIC Creative Cambridge Soundworks FPS1000 MS Intellimouse Optical Kleer 17-inch @ 85Hz 1152x864x32 desktop Share this post Link to post
machina1 0 Posted February 14, 2001 no probs with blue screens or my pionner dvd rom, just with the drive performance. id go back to win98 but good hdd transfers dont make a good operating system Share this post Link to post
Rulle 0 Posted February 16, 2001 ThC 129: What do you mean by that ATA-100 fix ? Isn't that the w2k hot fix I am using right now ? And DosFreak: I do have a udma66/100 cable and the only drive connected to it is the IBM. And the cable is even set so that blue ending is connected to mobo. (Read somewhere that it mattered but don't know for sure) What do you guys think about the VIA Bus Master drivers ? I've heard people saying to stay away from those... Didn't notice any performance increase over standard w2k drivers though... And I got one blue screen after installing those VIA drivers... However, I haven't had any problems since. Share this post Link to post
machina1 0 Posted February 16, 2001 I tried uninstalling them but didnt notice any difference at all. The reason for that would be because there only the IDE busmaster drivers not the ones for the highpoint raid. I tried getting specific highpoint drivers but there like 50k (wow thats going to do a lot) and sure enough identical performance. Lame Share this post Link to post
Qun Mang 0 Posted February 17, 2001 Is anyone having this problem with the non-RAID model? I was thinking about getting the KT7A without RAID. Share this post Link to post
machina1 0 Posted February 17, 2001 to be honest i dont think its got a lot to do with RAID, more the fact that the Highpoint IDE slots dont have ultra dma 100 support in win2k. The Non Raid model would be exactly the same Share this post Link to post
Qun Mang 0 Posted February 17, 2001 Can anyone post some info on Athlon mobos that don't have this problem? Or does this happen with all of them that have Via's chipset? Share this post Link to post
machina1 0 Posted February 17, 2001 Ive certainly not seen anyone advertising having a High Point motherboard in ultra dma 100. Part of the problem is you actually have to benchmark it to find out, I'd be really interested if someone came forward, but somehow - I doubt it. Share this post Link to post
machina1 0 Posted February 17, 2001 To further demonstrate the dispairty ive uploaded this. God i need help. <html>http://home.clara.net/edger/compare.jpg</html> http://home.clara.net/edger/compare.jpg Share this post Link to post
machina1 0 Posted February 18, 2001 ive given up the ghost now, gone back to win98. There were a few other probs hassling me as well. General instability (couldnt do 3 x 3dmark benchmarks on the trot where as win98 did it for 24 hours in a row before i stopped it) took me 29 hours to complete a SETI unit (takes 6 in win98) and this hard drive access. Ah well sad day when I got to use this junk OS, oh well Share this post Link to post
Brian Frank 0 Posted March 10, 2001 Ive had no problems with the Asus A7V. And the only good Athlon boards have a Via chipset in them, AMD only puts out a chipset to push things that it would like to see chipset makers (mainly Via, cause Intel wont help out a competitor, and we all know SiS and ALi put out worthless power chipsets). If you need RAID, the A7V133 has it. Also, if you install both the Via Busmaster drivers and the Highpoint drivers, that could cause a problem. I read something about that in an Abit BE6 mobo manual that my dad has with an ATA66 pair of extra controllers (8 IDE devices). Win2k will not really use ATA100, even though theres a patch for it. So, in otherwords, you cant do jack squat about it. Share this post Link to post