half-life + win2k sp1 problem

[Kritical 0]

This is a very odd problem that I can't seem to find ANY help on anywhere else... Before installing SP1 Half-Life / Counter-strike ran fine no problems whatsoever... after installing sp1 i have very very wierd problems its almost as if i lag for a few seconds but i dont actually lag. The screen pauses for a second and comes back pushing me forward... its not framerate related its related to the latency but my ping doesn't fluctuate ... If anyone knows anything about this very odd problem please give me some info about it =/ thanks

[Kritical 0]

bump?!

[Busby 0]

It's either packet loss or it is the stupid CL_FlushEntity problem.

[Kritical 0]

bump

[h-bomb 0]

damn...i thought i was alone. mine does it now, but the pauses are for a split second. What kind of card do you have? I have a voodoo3, and i cant get good drivers to work with it. The only ones that dont give me those little pauses force the framerate to 60 max.

[Brian Frank 0]

One of my boxes has a V3 3000 under Win2k with the 1.04 drivers...I think. Anyway Ive got it under SP1 with no problems.

Id really say, if you dont have any need to go to SP1, skip it. Updates do fix alot of problems, but they can also create new ones.

Heard of Wicked GL? Ive been meaning to try it, but Im lazy.

Since 3dfx really doesnt exist in the sense of putting out anything now, drivers are pretty much done with. The best alternative is a GF2 MX. Those are pretty damn fast. I like 3dfx cards, but well having support is really nice too.

It may be time to give up the V3 for your rig.

[KenShabby 0]

I have the exact problem..

 

I can make some slight improvements when fooling with my antialiasing settings, as well as switching the vertical sync to "on"

 

unfortunately, the problem still exists in the beta of SP2 as well. This is extremely frustrating as I'm really looking forward to the speed improvements that SP2 has to offer.

 

Any further suggestions are greatly appreciated.

 

KS

[Kritical 0]

anyone else have this problem and find a fix for it?

[SHS 0]

check the glide ver drv in half-life is it 1.45 ?

[Kritical 0]

ya it is but i dont use glide anyway... i have an ati radeon 64mb ddr so i just use the default OGL driver...

[Brian Frank 0]

I use OGL in HL too, but Ive got a GF2MX. The reason I do is because in D3D when I exit a game, I cant see anything (good thing I know the keyboard shortcuts).

 

I tried out a Radeon 32 DDR, but the performance wasnt all that impressive.

Voodoo4~3000 in 3dmark2k, Radeon~4000, and the GF2MX with the Det. 11.01~5150+.

Some of that comes from overclocking, but the Radeon has some serious driver problems, specifically speed. No doubt the card is sweet, but DVD playback cant save it if the drivers dont do it justice.

I really wish there was a price war with video cards like the cpu price war between Intel and AMD.

[KenShabby 0]

I think that this problem must be somehow hardware related. I have tried it with a clean install, and the official Detonator Drivers, with nothing else installed but SP1.

 

Same Problem.

 

However, on my office computer (win2k advanced server + SP1) the problem does not exist.

 

I have a K7M, TBird 800, SBlive, Diamond SCSI

[Kritical 0]

SBLive you say? as do i... hmmm only thing i can see we share.. my mainboard is that shitty 1st mainboard one whatever manufacturer it is...

[KenShabby 0]

I believe that I have tried this with a removed soundcard, but I cannot recall for sure. Would you be willing to remove the card from your system, and then try again?

 

We can compare results.

 

there IS a solution, i'm convinced

[KenShabby 0]

A couple more things...

 

What chipset is your mainboard?

 

What AGP rate do you run at? 1x2x4x?

 

Do you have the same problem when running halflife in D3D mode? I do, so its not a rendering problem.

 

What refresh rate do you run at?

 

Which 4 in 1 drivers do you run?

 

Anything else that you have noticed? I notice that 3DMark2001 does not runn correctly either.

 

I'm going insane.

[Kritical 0]

im not even sure what chipset my mainboard is =/ it was one of those cheap motherboards that came bundeled with the cpu for a good price all i know is it is a fic 1st main board =/ i run at 4x AGP mode as far as i can tell although my bios does not allow me to change this so i can not guarantee that. yes i have the same problem in d3d i run at 60hz i use the latest ati radeon drivers. only other thing i have noticed is it is very inconsistant sometimes i can play for like 10-15 minutes without getting a spike and i think i fixed it somehow then all of a sudden there they are =/

[KenShabby 0]

I can completely alleviate this problem with antialiasing 2x, but I dont like the speed slowdown. Ugh.

[Brian Frank 0]

Kritical, for the chipset, look in your manual. Even the cheapest boards will tell you what chipset it is, and a little bit more about jumpers. You do still have the manual...

 

Another thing, what cpu do you have.

If youre running a socket 7 board, specifically one with an ALi chipset, I suggest getting a new board and proc if you are serious about games.

The chipset is more of an issue than the mother board maker-although a good board does help.

 

Ive been less than impressed with ATI drivers under Win2k. The biggest bang for your buck is a GF2 MX. And Nvidia has MUCH better drivers than ATI does. The Radeon is a good card especially when it comes to DVD, but I buy a video card with gaming in mind first, and the Radeon cards dont cut it under 2k.

 

Kritical, please post your specs so we can help you. A doctor cant operate blindly.

Again, look at your manual.

[KenShabby 0]

Specs:

 

ASUS K7M

Athlon Thunderbird Slot 1 ~700MHz

ASUS Geforce DDR

256MB Micron RAM

Soundblaster Live Value

Diamond Fireport 40 SCSI (with boot drive+burner)

2 ethernet cards

USR 56K Hardware modem

Plextor 12X IDE Burner

Hitachi DVD ROM

Logitech USB Mouse

 

This only occurs with win2k SP1 and SP2, once you remove them, the problem is gone.

[cipher 0]

ok I have the same problem, but for me the stuttering is completely fixed by enabling V-sync. However, since installing SP1 i cant update servers- i had to manually add my normal servers:

 

my system

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Asus P3V4x (VIA)

P3 1.008GHz

Prophet2 64 (Elsa 920 on order)

512mb 133 ram (cas3)

IBM 75GXP 30.7Gb UDMA100

SB Live

HP 8200i CDRW

x4 DVD

Windows2k SP1 & 2

[KenShabby 0]

Cipher

 

Additionally, I cannot run 3DMark 2001 without it messing up, and saying that I didnt run enough tests to calculate a score.

 

when I remove SP1, everything is fine again.

 

this problem still occurs when vertical sync is "on"

 

also, the old glquake is totally messed up with SP1, and just fine with no SP

 

notice the same problems?

[cipher 0]

yes i did notice the problem with 3dmark 2001, but i dont care about that. As far as im concerned, the bugs in SP1 are minor, and overall gaming performance is fantastic, especially in unreal tournament which really likes my 512 of ram (from desktop to game load in 5 seconds!) and I have been playing midtown madness 2 at 1280x1024 with x4 FSAA with little jerkiness, and also Counter Strike at 1280x1024 with x2 FSAA with 60fps!!

 

Cant wait to get my GeForce 3

 

Im suprised enabling v-sync doesnt help for you- what card & drivers y using- if its a Geforce definately use the 11.01 driver if y arent already.

 

later

cipher

[KenShabby 0]

Switching to vsync "on" works for counterstrike, but not for GLQuake or 3DMark 2001. I think this is quite a major bug in SP1 -- especially since the same problem exists with the beta of SP2.

 

I'd stay without any SP's except I really want the speed improvements that they have to offer.

 

Win2K Should be getting better, not worse!

[cipher 0]

we should report this bug to someone at MS if it hasnt already as you are right in saying its a pretty big bug i guess

[KenShabby 0]

Does anybody here know of an SP2 beta tester, or a microsoft employee?